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Prevod nashih imena na queniu - novo, preuredjeno izdanje

Postod Shieldmaiden u Čet Jun 26, 2003 10:44 am

Reshila sam da dam mali prilog vashem odeljku.
Ova tema vec postoji al je zatrpana negde u pricaonici. Imena su bila rastrkana po raznim postovima pa sam ih sad sve sakupila na gomilu radi lakseg snalazenja.

PREVOD NEKIH NASHIH IMENA NA QUENIJU


ADRIANA: znachi tamna, prema tome Morië

ANA: Ervannë, Almië ili Almarë

ANASTAZIJA: na grchkom uskrsla. Amaltuitarë

ANDJELA: Ainuri su ekvivalenti andjela tako da se od rechi Ainu izvodi Aini

ANDRIJA, ANDREJ: od grchkog Andreas. Od andros - chovek. Znachenje bi bilo chovekoliko ili mozda muzevno. Vea - muzevan, odrastao. Prema tome VËON

ANDREA: Vé ili Veasse

ANTONIJE- Lóto, Lótu, Lótion. Zenska varijanta bila bi Lóte, Lóta ili Lótiel

ALEKSANDAR: sastavljeneno od alexein, braniti i aner, andros, chovek, dakle znachi branilac ljudi ili neshto slichno. Kad ovo prevodimo bolje bi bilo koristiti atan nego nér za rech chovek jer se ovo potonje odnosi na mushkarca, dok atan oznachava sve ljude (barem u pochetku, kasnije je korishceno samo ze prijatelje vilovnjaka). Ali, shta bi bilo "branilac"; na queniji? Postoji rech varya- shtititi, a znamo da je no sufiks od. Moguci prevod branitelja bu mogao biti vardo. Visoko vilenjachki ekvivalent Aleksandra bi onda bio ATANVARNO. Druga dobra rech za branitelja bi mogla biti varyar, izvuchena direktno iz varya.
Zenska verzija imena bi mogla biti Atanvarnë (nisam sigurna).

BOJANA: prevela sam kao komandant vojske. Cano je komandant a hossë vojska. Mislila sam da stavim hossë u genitiv (od vojske), pa bi bilo hosso ali onda bi ime zvuchalo prilichno mushki iako bi cano prebacila u zenski rod: canë , jer bi to izgledalo ovako: Canëhosso (hosso mora iza cane po pravilu). Primetlia sam posle na nekim sajtovima da kad prevode imena uopshte ne obracaju paznju na padeze tako da sam odluchila da ostavim Canëhossë.
Medjutim genitiv ide sasvim fino kod mushkog oblika, tako da sam ga ostavila

BOJAN: Canohosso

DANIJEL: znachi bog je moj sudija. Eru je bog a námo sudija, dakle Erunámo

DANIJELA: Erunámë

DAVID: znachenje hebrejskog Dawidh je verovatno voljeni. Od melda (voljen, drag) izvlachimo Meldon.

DIANA: izvdedeno od rechi Bog. Moglo bi bit Erumë ili Eruwen

DINA: znachi odbranjena na sudu ali moze se prevesti kao zenski sudija, Námo "sudija", prema tome Námë, ako gledamo kao "ona kojoj je sudjeno onda je Námnë

DUSHKA, DUSHANKA: Dusha na queniji je fea i to mozemo i ostaviti u tom obliku, dakle FEA

DUBRAVKA: dubrava =polje, livada , moze se prevesti kao Dalfwen

DJORDJE: Onaj koji obradjuje zemlju/zemljoradnik. Od grchkog gaia, ge - zemlja i eregon - rad. Kemen je zemlja ali shta bi bio radnik? Mól znachi rob, ovo je preteshka rech ali mozemo dodati sufiks na rech móta- rad. Sufiks r je korishcen u drugom glagolu koji se zavrshava na -ta (envinyatar, od envinyata). Kad spojimo kemen i mótar dobijamo Kememmótar (nm se asimiluje u mm). To se moze skratiti u KEMMÓTAR. Kememmótare ili Kemmótare je zenski oblik.

FILIP: na grchkom ljubitelj konja, na queniji Roccondil.

IGOR: znam samo skandinavsko znachenje ove rechi, strelac, lukonosac. Quinga, Cú "luk", ohtar, mehtar , ratnik, odatle QUINGOHTAR ili QUINGAMEHTAR ili CÚIMEHTAR

IVAN: od hebrejskog Yochanan - bog je milostiv. Ne moze se tachno prevesti ali na queniji Eru [nŕ] antala znachi Bog je velikodushan/daje. Od toga sastavljamo rech Eruntalion. Mozda moze da se skrati u Eruntalon.

IVANA: Eruntalë

JELENA/HELENA: od grchke rechi sunhev zrak, svetlost. Alca znachi sunchev zrak pa odatle imamo ALCË ili ALCIË

KATARINA: Nepoznatog je porekla ali bi moglo znachiti chista/devichanska. Vende zbachi devica, deva . Moze se prevesti kao Vendea ili Vénea ili Vendie ili Vénie

KRISTINA: od latinskom sledbenica Hristova, hrishcanka, Hrist se prevodi kao Laivino, dakle Laivinë

MARINA: od latinskog 'od mora, morsko'; earin, earina "od mora", odatle Earina ili EARINË

MARIJA: na hebrejskom gorka, sára znachi gorko, dakle Sárë ili Sárië

MATIJA: bozji dar, Eru je bog, anna je dar, prema tome Eruanno ili Erunno

MARKO: verovatno povezano sa Marsom, Carnil je mars odatle moze biti Carnildo ili Carnilmo

MIHAJLO: Ba hebrejskom to je retorichko pitanje- ko je kao bog? Na queniji Man [nŕ] ve Eru? Ovo se moze skratiti u Manveru.

MILA: Melimë ili Meldë

MILENKO: najblize shto sam uspela da nadjem je rech melima shto znachi drag, lako voljen, znachi Melimo . mozda je tacnije ako se stavi u deminutiv – onda je Meliminco

MILICA: moze se graditi dodavanjem deminutiva -ince tako da je Meldincë

NIKOLA: od grchkog Nikolaus, koje je sastavljenoshto od rechi pobeda i ljudi ( ljudi pobednici?). Na queniji ovo bi moglo biti Turelië ali postoji jedan problem. Na visoko vilenjachkom nastavak -ië je zenski rod a ne mushki. Moramo da promenimo nastavak, bash kao shto je colla prebacheno u collo u imenu Sindacollo "sivi plasht". Túrelio bi bio moguci oblik.

PAVLE: od latinskog paulus- mali. Na kveniji postoje rechi titta-mali, sitan i pitya-mali. Imena bi onda mogla biti Titton ili Pityon.

PETAR: od grchkog stena, sar i ond znache stena na queniji. Odatle Sardo ili Ondo

ROBERT: na starogermanskom slava+svetlo. Znachi alcar to jest slava plus calima, svetlo. Alcarcalimo.

SLOBODAN: slobodan chovek. Na queniji mirima znachi slobodno i odatle izvlachimo MIRIMON. Zenski oblik bi bio Mirimë.

SNEZANA: sneg je losse, mogla bi biti Lossë ili Losswen (sneg-devojka). Ako je znacenje bela kao sneg (ala Snowwhite i sedam patuljaka) onda ide losse+losse, to jest Losselos

SONJA: ne znam tachno znachenje ali potiche od rechi san. San se kaze olos, dakle Oloriel

SOFIJA: znachi mudrost, prema tome Nolwë

SRDJAN: najbliza rech je Varno, ne mogu da nadjem slichniji naziv na queniji

UROSH: moglo bi da znaci gospodin; najbliza rech koju sam nashla je arquen, plemic. Tako da je mozda Arquenon ili samo Arquen.

VERA: mozda vórima, voronda , verna. Odatle Vórimë ili Vorondë

VID: Tir

VLADIMIR: sére je mir; -tur je vladar, dakle Séretur

ZORICA, ZORANA: Ára ili Áre ili Amaurea

ZORAN: Áraon
Poslednji put menjao Shieldmaiden dana Sub Sep 04, 2004 9:01 pm, izmenjena 4 puta
What's sticking into your foot is a steel tipped four inch stiletto heel, the most dangerous footwear in the world. I know what you're thinking: "could she push it all the way trough to the floor?". To tell you the truth I'm not sure about that myself, but I'm going to give it a damn good try.
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Postod Telpareon Kalenae u Čet Jun 26, 2003 12:03 pm

Hvala Dina!
Among the eternal symmetry of stars
Beings dwelt in a realm of light
Below the horizons of hopes and signs
Covered by shelter of shadow and night

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Postod makica u Čet Jun 26, 2003 1:54 pm

hvala dina! :D ;)
...cause the joke that you laid in the bed that was me
And I'm not gonna fade as soon as you close your eyes
And you know it!
And every time I scratch my nails down someone else's back
I hope you feel it... Well can you feel it?

And I'm here to remind you
Of the mess you left when you went away
It's not fair to deny me
Of the cross I bear that you gave to me
You, you, you oughta know
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Postod Mith 'quessir u Čet Jun 26, 2003 9:20 pm

Так вперёд за цыганской звездой
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Postod DarthElf u Pet Jun 27, 2003 7:57 pm

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Postod Mith 'quessir u Sre Jul 02, 2003 8:14 pm

Так вперёд за цыганской звездой
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Postod Aradela u Čet Jul 03, 2003 9:06 pm

Kazes mi da moram da nestanem
Kao cvece koje negujem
Nista od mog imena da ne ostane
Nista slavno da ne postane
Ali jos su mlade baste koje zalivah
Pevace se opet pesme koje pevah.


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Postod Telpareon Kalenae u Pet Jul 04, 2003 4:35 pm

Among the eternal symmetry of stars
Beings dwelt in a realm of light
Below the horizons of hopes and signs
Covered by shelter of shadow and night

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Postod Shieldmaiden u Ned Jul 06, 2003 11:41 am

What's sticking into your foot is a steel tipped four inch stiletto heel, the most dangerous footwear in the world. I know what you're thinking: "could she push it all the way trough to the floor?". To tell you the truth I'm not sure about that myself, but I'm going to give it a damn good try.
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Postod Lady Phernedloriel u Ned Jul 06, 2003 6:06 pm

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Postod Telpareon Kalenae u Ned Jul 06, 2003 8:53 pm

Among the eternal symmetry of stars
Beings dwelt in a realm of light
Below the horizons of hopes and signs
Covered by shelter of shadow and night

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Postod Telpareon Kalenae u Ned Jul 06, 2003 8:54 pm

Among the eternal symmetry of stars
Beings dwelt in a realm of light
Below the horizons of hopes and signs
Covered by shelter of shadow and night

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Postod Undomiel u Ned Jul 06, 2003 9:23 pm

"Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes."
"Reality? Is that where the pizza delivery guy comes from?"
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