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Postod Eärendil The Mariner u Sre Feb 04, 2004 8:29 pm

Sing forever, proud and strong,
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She has eyes that men adore so,
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...To stand against the Shadow so long as iron is hard and stone abides. To defend the weak while one drop of blood remains. To avenge what cannot be defended...
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Postod Shieldmaiden u Pet Feb 06, 2004 3:08 pm

What's sticking into your foot is a steel tipped four inch stiletto heel, the most dangerous footwear in the world. I know what you're thinking: "could she push it all the way trough to the floor?". To tell you the truth I'm not sure about that myself, but I'm going to give it a damn good try.
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Postod alcesta u Pet Feb 06, 2004 9:09 pm

What if you slept? And what if, in your sleep, you dreamed? And what if, in your dream, you went to heaven and there plucked a strange and beautiful flower? And what if, when you awoke, you had the flower in your hand? Ah, what then?
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Postod Eärendil The Mariner u Pet Feb 06, 2004 11:09 pm

Aducabar, samo da malo prokomentarišem još, bez pretenzija da se složimo: ne slažem se uopšte za razmjenu dijaloga - iako je manje uspješno u par momenata, uglavnom je vrlo srećno pronađeno i ima itekako smisla: npr. u produženoj verziji TTT, Faramir izgovara Semov tekst kad vidi mrtvog Southrona, što mi se učinilo kao jako prikladno za taj filmski momenat, jer uveliko raščišćava Faramirov karakter, prikazujući jednu crtu antiratnog raspoloženja, za razliku od Boromira - velikog ratnika i heroja. Film mora da komunicira na određenom nivou sa modernom publikom, i da pruži ono što samo knjiga može - kroz sliku, u malo vremena i MALO RIJEČI. Ako bi tačno prenosili tekst, neizostavno bi skoro svaka rečenica bila van konteksta, jer bi se dosta toga kratilo i izbacivalo. Ovako, maksimalna količina teksta je ušla u filmove "iz knjige" i u duhu, i ja sam uglavnom jako zadovoljan...

A posebno negodujem zbog tvog shvatanja knjige, ako smatraš da je Arwen "ukras"... Da je to Tolkien htio, ne bi pisao Appendices. :roll:
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Postod Aducabar u Pet Feb 06, 2004 11:11 pm


She has eyes that men adore so,
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Postod Aducabar u Pet Feb 06, 2004 11:28 pm


She has eyes that men adore so,
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Postod Eärendil The Mariner u Sub Feb 07, 2004 12:10 am

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Though times of fate onwards run,
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Postod Vladica u Sub Feb 07, 2004 9:00 am

Evo ja stizem u pomoc Aducabaru i rekao bih sledece:
Vecina vas je film gledala samo zato sto je ekranizacija popularne knjige, postoje i oni drugi koji su gledali film a nisu citali knjigu i ja jos nisam sreo coveka koji nije citao knjigu a da kaze da je bilo koji od tri nastavaka filma DOBAR. Naprotiv svi koji nisu citali knjigu film ne shvataju i misle da je dosadan i glup (osim onih koji vole sve filmove gde ima malo akcije macevanja i sl. a koji pojma nemaju o umetnosti filma). Komentari (u bioskopu) tipa: ko je ovaj starac, sta sad ovi rade isl. su bili cesti kada sam ja gledao 1. i 2. deo..
Dakle P.J. je iskoristio ultra popularnost jednog istinskog umetnickog dela kako bi zaradio pare u jednom svetu koji ne obraca nikakvu paznju na umetnost (holywood). Zbog toga mislim da su lotr filmovi cista komercijala...
Ne znam da li je moglo bolje (verovatno ne mnogo bolje) napraviti film ali je cinjenica da se film i knjiga ne mogu porediti po mogucnostima pruzanja zadovoljstva ...
Ipak, film jeste doprineo popularizaciji teme kod nas ( a i drugde u svetu) pa me ortaci vise na smatraju nenormalnim kada im kazem da po ko zna koji put citam lotr...

Dakle nije u pitanju skrnavljenje filma ( on me uopste ne zanima) vec sjkrnavljenje predivne knjige cistokrvnom komercijalom...

Mrzi me vise da kucam. Aj ziveli
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