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Postod Hurin u Sub Jan 18, 2003 1:55 pm

Kad bi se neko odlucio da snimi ovo(samo ne pj).
Koliko bi trebalo vremena,i svega ostalog...
I koliko bi bio drugaciji od knjige, tj. neke scene ne bi moi snimiti.

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Postod Galadriel u Sub Jan 18, 2003 3:03 pm

Mailim da se nesto na tu temu raspravljalo na Seriji, ali ajde sad...
Ako se ja pitam film bi trebalo snimati najmanje tri godine ako misle da se ubaci svaki deo, svaki lik...takodje mislim da je malo ne moguce snimiti ga a da ne traje najmanje 4 sata (pa ni tad ne bi uspeli ubaciti svaku scenu).U svakom slucaju jedan oooogroman posao.A i kako naci gdovoljno lepe glumce koji bi glumili Valare i Majare??Jedino preko graficke dorade, sto kaze Shield...
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Postod Shieldmaiden u Sub Jan 18, 2003 3:26 pm

celu knjigu Silmarilion bi bilo nemoguce preneti na veliko platno. Mogli bi evenutalno kao omnibus kratkih pricha ali kao takav ne bi bio privlachan publici i ne bi se isplatio. Ono shto bi mogli je da isprichaju samo prichu o Silmarilima, znachi od trenutka kad su stvoreni do njihovog unishtenja ili, pak, da se drze samo priche o Berenu i Lutjeni, koja bi onda morala da ima prolog o nastanku Silmarila. Ni jedna od ovih pricha ne bi bila najsrecnije reshenje za film jer bi da bi stala u tri sata motralo mnogo toga da se iseche.
Mozda da se napravi mini serija od 10-ak epizoda od po 45 minuta ne bi bilo loshe ali samo da se drze priche o Silmarilima, bez Ainulundale-a, Valakvente, Akalbeta, priche o Turinu itd. Opet, tu bi bio problem shto bi sve moralo da se pochne od Kulina bana i prologom "Beshe Eru, jedini, koji se na Ardi..."
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Postod Herzelaid u Sub Jan 18, 2003 6:49 pm

Ili bi neko zrtvovao 3-4 godine svog zivota da snimi film u trajanju 15-20 sati,ako uopste nadje ljude koji ce ga sponzorisati sa,oh,oko stotinjak miliona $.
Morali bi da izbace Mit o postanku sveta.Kako bi izgledao Eru?Kako bi zvucala muzika Ainura?Ako nisam nesto propustio,
sve ostalo je stvar efekata(i budzeta za efekte).
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Postod Hurin u Ned Jan 19, 2003 3:19 pm

Ipak je najlepse citati.
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Postod Dorya u Uto Jan 21, 2003 12:32 pm

Uf, nema sanse za tako nesto. Eventualno bi mogla da se ekranizuje neka od tematski zaokruzeninih celina/prica (kao ona o Berenu i Lutjeni), ali bi opet doslo do skartiranja podataka, jer bi bilo nemoguce filmski tacno predstaviti kontekst i okruzenje u kome su oni ziveli. Pod filmskim predstavljanjem se podrazumeva da nijedan sporedni lik ne moze da postoji sam za sebe, vec ga se u pricu mora uvesti odgovarajucim uvodom i on mora imati srazmernu vaznost kroz ceo film. Ako je, kao kod Tolkina, takvih likova puno - i ako bi se svi ispostovali - doslo bi do rasula filma. Verna ekranizacija cak i manjih prica bi dakle bila nemoguca, a sudeci po reakcijama na LOTR film, tek bi bilo pljuvanja po Silmarilionu, buduci da je on ravan bibliji Tolkinovog sveta.
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I would shout, but my voice has been taken.
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Postod Aragorn u Sub Jan 25, 2003 11:47 am

Bolje da se tako nesto ne desi(snimanje filma) posto bi ukenjali knjigu do kraja...
I ZENE PRDE !!!!
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Postod BEAST u Sub Jan 25, 2003 5:58 pm

Jel znate da su PJ-u ponudili da snima hobita i on je odbio?



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Postod Galadriel u Sub Jan 25, 2003 8:18 pm

Pfffff...ono je dobro!Jadan bi bio taj Hobit koga bi on glumio...HOBITOGRDJE!
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Postod Hurin u Sub Jan 25, 2003 10:12 pm

Ne bi bilo lepo od njega da i to uradi.
Dosta je ucinio...  :rofl
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Postod Shieldmaiden u Ned Jan 26, 2003 4:01 pm

Ovo je komentar Hohna Howe-a na tu temu:

"A movie based on the Silmarillion? Not for now!" . Who ever dared to say it after the huge success of the first two installments of The Lord of the Rings by Peter Jackson? I guarantee you it's one of the most informed people about it. But before telling you who undoubtely "dared so much", let me give you my account about a really special evening.

Why special? Well, take a wonderful city like Rome, a few friends who share the same passion just like the people of the Italian Tolkien Society, a good pizza, my dear friend Paolo Paron, but most of all a very special guy like John Howe, and there you have it!

...edit...

Well, Howe really stole the evening and gave us a lot of informations. It was him, in fact, who told us that the Silmarillion won't become, for now, a movie. Why? Quoting Howe "the rights of 'the Lord of the Rings' and 'the hobbit' were sold by Tolkien himself, so it was his own decision. The rights of 'the Silmarillion', instead, belong to his son Christopher". Howe, who knows Christopher very well, also told us that "he won't sell the rights to anyone whatever sum offered" and that "the Silmarillion is very strictly linked with his father's life and will never be made into a film while he's still alive".

ceo chlanak mozete prochitati ovde: http://www.caltanet.it/2003/index.php?o ... 8291&temp=
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Postod Drizzt Do'Urden u Ned Apr 06, 2003 10:13 pm

Sil nece biti snimljen dok sam ja ziv!!!Hvala bogu i tolkinu sto je dao Kristofera koji NIKAD nece prodati prava pa da snima neko djubre poput PJ-a koji je iskvario svetost lotra i prvi i drugi su bruka a tek kakva ce treci biti ostaje da vidimo!!! :x
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Postod Shieldmaiden u Ned Apr 06, 2003 10:23 pm

Don't be so sure.
Silmarilion nece biti snimljen ne za tvog vec za Kristoferovog zivota. Kristofer je veoma star, ima skoro 80 godina. Mozda ce da pozivi maksimum 15 godina a onda prava najverovatnmije prelaze u ruke njegove dece.
Ako padnu u finansijske neprilike - eto nama serije ili filma po Silmarilionu.
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Postod makica u Čet Jun 19, 2003 8:42 pm

ufff... nesto u poslednje vreme i previse dizem teme iz mrtvih :lol:
u svakom slucaju, takodje mislim da je to nemoguce... niko,ali niko ne bi mogao da snimi Ainulindale (muzika Ainura). odnosno, mogla bi se ta prica preneti na veliko platno ali nece privuci publiku jer nije isti dozivljaj kao kad se procitaju tolkinove reci... a opet, ako bi se snimila neka druga prica, sigurno ne bi sve bilo jasno gledaocima koji nisu procitali Silmarillion... ipak se kroz svaku pricu prozima Ainulindale, Valakventa ili silmarili... sve price su povezane i posebno jednostavno ne bi mogle da se snimaju...
i opet kazem - to je nemoguce; a pj bi bio jos veca budala kada bi snimio taj film/seriju...
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