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Deja vu

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Postod sinfe u Pon Sep 12, 2005 12:54 pm

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Postod Jake Chambers u Pon Sep 12, 2005 9:12 pm

اذهب، فهناك أيضا عوالم أخرى غير هذ
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Postod Jake Chambers u Sre Sep 14, 2005 9:37 pm

اذهب، فهناك أيضا عوالم أخرى غير هذ
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اذهب، فهناك أيضا عوالم أخرى غير هذ
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Postod Jake Chambers u Čet Sep 15, 2005 9:14 pm

اذهب، فهناك أيضا عوالم أخرى غير هذ
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Postod Ćira u Čet Sep 15, 2005 9:42 pm

Teziti ka slobodi i biti slobodan nije isto. Ja nisam rekao da nisi slobodan vec da ne tezis ka slobodi. A slobodan covek moze teziti ka slobodi istim zarom kao i onaj koji to nije! A sto se tice te slobode koju ti spominjes kada govoris o volji sopstvenog izbora ne cini li  ti se da je to ista ona volja i isti izbor koju osudjenik ima kada ga dzelat pita - Hoces li da te obesim na vesalima ili da ti na giljotini odsecem glavu?
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Postod Jake Chambers u Čet Sep 15, 2005 10:39 pm

Naravno da nije. Niko me ne tera da verujem.
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Postod Eska u Pet Sep 16, 2005 10:22 pm

http://www.ninastim.com .....NAJBOLJI AEROBIK U GRADU.....kom end si.... :sunce:

ajd, ajd...dodz da dzuskamo... :sheep2:
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Postod Ćira u Sub Sep 17, 2005 8:27 am

To Eska: Kad kazem teziti ka slobodi milsim na to biti sto vise nezavisan od drugih - biti svoj. Biti jaka individua koja nece zavisiti od drustva ali koja nece bezati od njega. Svako drustvo tezi da ukalupi coveka, da on bude deo njega,  da se pojedinac u velikoj meri ne razlikuje od drugih. I svako drustvo ce ustaliciti pisana i nepisana pravila ponasanja koja ce osoba koja dolazi u kontakt sa tim drustvom u manjoj ili vecoj meri morati da postuje. Izuzmimo sad ispravnost pojedinacnih pravila, nije nam bitno jesu li ona dobra ili losa, no svako pravilo jeste ogranicenje ponasanje pojedinca. A sva pravila doneo je covek, onaj koji je nekad bio na celu nekog drustva, s ciljem da pojedince oko sebe ogranici, kontrolise i iskoristi za dobro tog drustva. Tako je i danas. I danas mnogi, poput naseg Jacka, veruju da imaju izbor da biraju. Njihov izbor je da dolaze u tacno propisano vreme na posao cak i onda kada nemaju volje za tim. Nemaju volje ali imaju izbor da dodju ili ostanu bez posla. Jacke ce reci da je on svojom voljom izabrao da dodje na posao sto jeste tacno ali on nece priznati da ga je zapravo volja njegovog dzelata - sefa ili pravilo firme u kojoj radi, naterala da dodje! Takvih primera imas koliko hoces, mislim da ce ti ovaj jedan reci dovoljno. Tamo gde su pravila sloboda je uskracena.
Svako od nas ima drugaciju predstavu o slobodi. Za mene je ona teznja da radim stvari koje zelim da radim nesputan predrasudama drustva u kom zivim. A to je danas jako tesko.
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Postod duk u Sub Sep 17, 2005 1:08 pm

Ničiji um nije toliko slobodan da može da shvati veličinu svemira, ali to nema nikakve veze sa njegovim širenjem.
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