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Optimizam ili pesimizam

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Optimizam ili pesimizam

Postod Darth Mihael u Sre Mar 01, 2006 2:48 pm

Šta je bolje, optimizam ili pesimizam, ali ne u smislu dugog života (optimiste kao duže žive)
Is this the real life,                 Zaslepljujuće neznanje vodi nas krivim putem.
Is this just fantasy,                 O! Smrtnici jadnici otvorite oči!
Caught in a landslide,             LEONARDO DA VINČI
No escape from reality.

Open your eyes,
Look up to the sky,
And see.
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Postod Dain u Sre Mar 01, 2006 4:08 pm

Aj malo preformulishi pitanje. Ovako zvuchi kao "da li je ukusniji ili krokodil?" :?
Willing is not enough, we must do. Knowing is not enough, we must apply.

"Did the Lord said that Machines ought'a take the place of Livin'
and what's the supstitute for bread and beans?
Do engines get rewarded for their steam?"
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Postod Darth Mihael u Sre Mar 01, 2006 4:43 pm

pa dali se više isplati biti optimista ili pesimista ( ni ovo niko neće shvatiti)
Is this the real life,                 Zaslepljujuće neznanje vodi nas krivim putem.
Is this just fantasy,                 O! Smrtnici jadnici otvorite oči!
Caught in a landslide,             LEONARDO DA VINČI
No escape from reality.

Open your eyes,
Look up to the sky,
And see.
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Postod deedee u Sre Mar 01, 2006 6:56 pm

God may have created man before woman,
but there is always a rough draft
before the masterpiece.
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Postod Jake Chambers u Sre Mar 01, 2006 7:37 pm

اذهب، فهناك أيضا عوالم أخرى غير هذ
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Postod lightmath u Sre Mar 01, 2006 8:00 pm

Edicija naučne fantastike Radijant

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Postod deedee u Čet Mar 02, 2006 9:36 am

God may have created man before woman,
but there is always a rough draft
before the masterpiece.
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Postod Darth Mihael u Čet Mar 02, 2006 3:20 pm

Da, da Monty Paytons flying circus
Is this the real life,                 Zaslepljujuće neznanje vodi nas krivim putem.
Is this just fantasy,                 O! Smrtnici jadnici otvorite oči!
Caught in a landslide,             LEONARDO DA VINČI
No escape from reality.

Open your eyes,
Look up to the sky,
And see.
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Postod duk u Čet Mar 02, 2006 4:11 pm

Mislim da je bolje biti pesimista, i to samo iz jednog razloga, nikad ne može da ti bude gore od onoga što si zamislio-la, tako da možeš imati samo prijatna iznenađenja.
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Postod Lotlorien u Pet Mar 03, 2006 10:57 am

To Poisonous:Pa kad si pesimista, ti i u tim po definiciji prijatnim iznenadjima uspes da nadjes razlog da ona budu neprijata.

Ja ne razumem extremno pesimisticne ljude.Otkud im snaga da zive ako na sve oko sebe gledaju sa crnim velom preko ociju?What's  the point then?

Darth, ti postavi veoma opstu temu, a ni jednim postom ne dade bar neko misljenje o istoj. Ajde, rec nesto :)
I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.

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Postod Smorock u Pet Mar 03, 2006 12:26 pm

Zen i umetnost gazenja tenkom.
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Postod Darth Mihael u Pet Mar 03, 2006 1:26 pm

Ja sam neprikosloveni optimista,
i zato sam se mnogo puta razočarao,
verovao sam da ću dobiti na lotou
i uvek sam verovao da za sve postoji mogućnost,
da nađem 1000 dinara
da izbegnem ispitivanje i tako,
nekad mi je išlo od ruke
Pogotovo za ispitivanje...
Hteo sam da kažem da sam potpuni optimista
iako nekad nisam želeo da budem...
Šta se može...
Is this the real life,                 Zaslepljujuće neznanje vodi nas krivim putem.
Is this just fantasy,                 O! Smrtnici jadnici otvorite oči!
Caught in a landslide,             LEONARDO DA VINČI
No escape from reality.

Open your eyes,
Look up to the sky,
And see.
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Postod duk u Pet Mar 03, 2006 2:35 pm

Ko zna zašto je to dobro..
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Postod Smorock u Pet Mar 03, 2006 3:02 pm

Trudim se da ne koristim tu rečenicu. Privlači zlo.
Zen i umetnost gazenja tenkom.
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Postod Storm Trooper u Pet Mar 03, 2006 4:18 pm

Svakome je najbolje sopstveno, odnosno, ko gleda pesimisticki reci da je bolje biti pesimista i obrnuto. To je dosta subjektivna tema i ne moze se nista realno reci.

Ko je optimista, on se nada i veruje u nesto dobro, a onda ga lupe razocarenja koja dovode u pitanje njegovu optimisticku volju, ili ubace nervozu jer su se planovi poremetili, ali zna se: "moglo je i gore.." Dobre stvari su svakodnevna pojava, i prati je dobro raspolozenje. Do pola prazna casa je uvek polupuna

Ko je pesimista, taj ne veruje u lazi koje mu pricaju, jer zna dovoljno da sto mu se prica ne moze da se desi. Razocarenja su svakodnevna pojava, na koja pesimista oguglava kad ih se dovoljno nakoti, sto za posledicu nema nervozu jer je lose unapred docekano. Dobre stvari nisu svakodnevna pojava, a kad i pokusaju da probiju svetlom kroz tamni veo preko ociju pesimiste, pesimista ili trazi neko dublje znacenje dogadjaja ili sa nevericom prihvata, pritom pazeci na skrivenu zamku koja sigurno vreba iz daljine. Do pola puna casa je uvek poluprazna


I nista se tu ne moze promeniti, pravog optimistu lose ne menja, niti dobro pravog pesimistu, ali ne samo sta je dobro a sta lose zavisi od svakog pojedinacno nego i kojim putem pojedinac ide trazeci smisao svog postojanja i/ili nesto sto mu ispunjava zivot. Vremena je dosta da se svako promeni bezbroj puta, da promeni ugao posmatranja vise puta nego sto Kain igovori "VAE VICTUS". Moguce je i da nacin posmatranja moze da zavisi od prethodnih iskustava, sto ne treba objasnjavati

Ispravite gde gresim...
Given the choice -
whether to rule a corrupt and failing empire
or to challenge the Fates for another throw,
a better throw against one's destiny -
what was a king to do?

But does one ever truly have a choice?
One can only match, move by move,
the machinations of Fate,
and thus defy the tyrannous stars.


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