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Pitanje

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Postod Fulkaneli u Pon Mar 06, 2006 5:35 pm

Da li je život potraga za životnim smislom?
Ako je tako, onda, onda ako saznamo životnu svrhu, nema svrhe za životom?
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Postod dkdnt u Pon Mar 06, 2006 6:38 pm

pa iskreno to je zajebanije pitanje. na koje ja nemam nikakav odgovor. zato sto je u to umesano i pitanje o samom smislu postojanja. hm, ovo bi verovatno neki filosof bolje znao da ti kaze.

ali ajde, da probam bez postavljanja tog pitanja. dakle haos ne moze biti nista, jer za pocetak postoji u ljudskim glavama. sad drugi nivo je definisanje haosa. ja sam sklon prethodnom vidjenju stvari, neko moze imati druagcije mishljenje o tome, ali meni ovo deluje ispravno, ustvari ne vidim nijednu gresku u njemu.

jedno od dominantih mishljenja je bilo da je haos potpuno neuredjen sistem. ja smatram da nije tako, jer haos je sistem koji mi samom pricom uredjujemo. mi cak kad kazemo da je haos neuredjen, cinimo isti uredjen, zato sto uredjivanje stvari potice od ljudi. jedino pitanje da li je nas uredjivacki aparat u ovom slucaju opozicioni, ispravan

kada kazes da postoji uredjen sistem, i da nasuprot njemu postoji neuredjen sistem, ti delis, uredjujes celinu na dva nivoa. tvoj logicki aparat po nekom defaltu kao uredjenost smatra ponavljanje i predvidivost, jer sustinski uredjenost tome i sluzi, da ljdima omoguci poimanje sveta. medjutim to ne znaci da je haos sustinski neuredjen, to sto nema ponavljanja i predvidjanja ne znaci da ne postoji unutrashnja logika. ustvari unutrasnja logika haosa je samo nama kompletno nejasna. zbog toga ja ne mohu prihvatiti doslovnu podelu. jer nastaje iz naseg neznanja.


reputacija ime i pojava, uobicajena mera i tezina jedne stvari sve ono sto ona predstavlja, prvobitno skoro uvek pogresno i proizvoljno, prenosi se sa jedne generacije na drugu, naprosto jer ljudi u to veruju, da bi na kraju postalo sastavni deo stvari, samo njeno telo. ono sto je u pocetki bilo samo pojava, na kraju skoro nezibezno postaje sustina i kao takva vrsi uticaj

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Postod Fulkaneli u Pon Mar 06, 2006 7:01 pm

Gde teglimo toliki haos ako postoji u na[im glavama?

Budući da haos ne potiče od ljudi, ne mora da ima uređenja, mada je samo neuređenje neka vrsta uređenja. Možda je bolje opisati haos kao haotično kretanje, ali to što ljudi govore ne znači da je istina.
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Postod S u Pon Mar 06, 2006 11:06 pm

Jedno pitanje za dkdnt-a posto prije toga ne mogu da se fino upustim u raspravu...
Zasto je haos samo u ljudskim glavama i zasto zavisi od ljudi? Zasto ne postoji neki objektivni haos koji djeluje na ljude a ne ljudi na njega...
Jer postavljas stvari tako da je haos u covjeku (sto i moze biti) i da ga on pravi i zato haos ne moze biti neuredjen jer je covjek taj koji uredjuje...
E sad, posto haos u biti svoje rijeci znaci neuredjeni svijet, cemu je suprotnost kosmos - uredjeni svijeti kako to objasnjavas?
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Postod dkdnt u Uto Mar 07, 2006 12:15 am

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Postod BeSkRaJna_PriChA u Uto Mar 07, 2006 8:01 pm

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