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O teleoloskom argumentu o postojanju Boga

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Re: O teleoloskom argumentu o postojanju Boga

Postod Conius Schischkabab u Čet Avg 02, 2007 11:38 pm

Civilizacija je način pribavljanja i raspodele govedine, žita i vina.
Religija je način odnosa sa natprirodnim.
Umetnost je način oblikovanje sveta u lepšu stvarnost
Kultura je način integracije svega toga u jednu celinu.
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Postod S u Pet Avg 03, 2007 1:31 am

There is a crack in everything, that's how the light gets in

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Re: O teleoloskom argumentu o postojanju Boga

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Postod GilGaladriel u Pet Avg 03, 2007 2:21 am

++I am sorry. It is hard to convey five dimensional ideas in a language evolved to scream defiance at the monkeys in the other tree. ++
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Re: O teleoloskom argumentu o postojanju Boga

Postod caliburn u Pet Avg 03, 2007 5:56 am

"...i opet će, i opet će,
robovati neće!"


to redL: Moja čarobna gospo od Jantara, za tebe bih ubio i umro, sa osmehom na usnama i srećom u srcu!




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Postod S u Pet Avg 03, 2007 9:23 am

Pa ja sam to i istakao gore

A ovo sa mackom i Aristotelom je sam Aristotel predupredio kada je pravio svoj sistem logike... jedino sto to Ezen Jonesko ne zna, al nema veze
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Re: O teleoloskom argumentu o postojanju Boga

Postod Conius Schischkabab u Pet Avg 03, 2007 9:15 pm

I inače je problem sa bilo kakvim dokazom o B/božjem postojanju taj da se isti odmah koristi između ostalog i u političko/religiozne svrhe. A to ponekad može da završi pravim zloupotrebama.

Takođe je redovni problem taj što se postavlja pitanje opisivanja tog boga čije smo postojanje dokazali.
Primer je ovo što je caliburn istakao.

Iako logički nemoguće prema opisu B/boga koji je dao S, božje uplitanje u život ljudi je nužno prema Biblijskim opisima. Što mene dovodi do zaključka da se tu opisuju dve različite (i to fundamentalno različite) slike B/boga.

U najsažetijem obliku: kada filozof/logičar opiše B/boga, on ne mora nužno misliti na Trojedinog Boga. Štaviše! Ako hoće da zadrži objektivnost u prosuđivanju NE SME bez tvrdog dokaza da vrši tu identifikaciju!
U protivnom, rekao bih, taj se filozof/logičar oglušuje o osnovne postulate (dogme, de facto) naučnog razmišljanja. I zaslužuje da bude spaljen na lomači. ::D::
OK, malo se šalim. :feler: Ali, u suštini, I mean it. :lol:

Al, S jeste istakao, mada možda nejasno, da se ovde ne vrti oko hrišćanstva. :D
Civilizacija je način pribavljanja i raspodele govedine, žita i vina.
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Re: O teleoloskom argumentu o postojanju Boga

Postod gnostik u Čet Avg 30, 2007 2:03 pm

Sa souvr'aya niende misain ye
[Izgubljen sam unutar sopstvenog uma]
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Lepota je obličje Genija - u stvari, ona je viša od Genija, budući da joj nije potrebno nikakvo objašnjenje.
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Naučio sam da čitav svet želi da živi na vrhu planine, a da ne zna da je istinska sreća u savladavanju litica.
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Re: O teleoloskom argumentu o postojanju Boga

Postod Aducabar u Sub Sep 01, 2007 7:17 pm


She has eyes that men adore so,
and a torso even more so.
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Postod S u Sub Sep 01, 2007 7:26 pm

There is a crack in everything, that's how the light gets in

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Postod Aducabar u Sub Sep 01, 2007 7:57 pm


She has eyes that men adore so,
and a torso even more so.
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Postod S u Sub Sep 01, 2007 8:55 pm

There is a crack in everything, that's how the light gets in

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Re: O teleoloskom argumentu o postojanju Boga

Postod Conius Schischkabab u Sub Sep 01, 2007 9:15 pm

Civilizacija je način pribavljanja i raspodele govedine, žita i vina.
Religija je način odnosa sa natprirodnim.
Umetnost je način oblikovanje sveta u lepšu stvarnost
Kultura je način integracije svega toga u jednu celinu.
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Postod S u Sub Sep 01, 2007 9:32 pm

There is a crack in everything, that's how the light gets in

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Postod Conius Schischkabab u Ned Sep 09, 2007 12:04 am

Civilizacija je način pribavljanja i raspodele govedine, žita i vina.
Religija je način odnosa sa natprirodnim.
Umetnost je način oblikovanje sveta u lepšu stvarnost
Kultura je način integracije svega toga u jednu celinu.
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