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Kako slepi sanjaju....?

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Postod Strider u Sub Jun 03, 2006 7:47 pm

kada sanjate, vi i cujete nesto, right?
oni inace ne vide, pa zato sumnjam da "vide" u snu. Mozda imaju neke vizuelne stimulanse, ali naravno da ne sanjaju "dogadjaje iz proslog zivota" i takve gluposti.
To se odnosilo na slepe od rodjenja. Oni koji su imali, ali izgubili vid najverovatnije sanjaju slicno nama.
Na kraju, pitacu, bio sam u kontaktu sa slepim ljudima.

Ne vidim sta ova tema trazi na filozofiji uopste ali sad....
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Postod Conius Schischkabab u Ned Jun 04, 2006 2:58 pm

Civilizacija je način pribavljanja i raspodele govedine, žita i vina.
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Postod Strider u Ned Jun 04, 2006 7:02 pm

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Postod Dain u Ned Jun 04, 2006 10:41 pm

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Postod bora111bora u Sub Dec 16, 2006 2:29 am

Evo dva zanimljiva pitanja.

Ako oni mogu da stvore misaonu sliku o objektima na osnovu dodira, kako ih slepci vizuelno zamisljaju u glavi? Bez obzira sto ne poznaju boje, ovde je problem osvetljenja. Mi svaki oblik koji vidimo, pa imao on samo jednu boju, definisemo preko siluete (spoljne ivice) i preko razlicitih nijansi koje nastaju od razlicitog prelamanja svetlosti. Dakle ako ne bi bilo svetlosti mi bi neki oblik videli samo kao neku crnu mrlju. Takav slucaj je upravo sa slepcima.

Drugo, mi svet posmatramo centralisticki, naviknuti gledanjem, a centar nam se nalazi izmedju ociju (ili mozda malo iza njih ne znam), i imamo osecaj sta je napred, a sta nazad (ono sto vidimo i ono sto ne vidimo). Ako slepci vec ne vide, pitanje je na koji nacin oni stvaraju sliku sveta oko sebe. Da li recimo onu imaginarnu tablu za sah posmatraju kao da je ispred njih, dal je posmatraju odozgo, ili kako vec?
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