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Shta je lepshe...

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Shta je lepshe...

Postod Earvena u Sub Dec 30, 2006 12:56 pm

"I hate the way you talk to me,and the way you cut your hair,
I hate the way you drive my car, I hate it when you stare,
I hate your big dumb combat boots, and the way you read my mind,
I hate you so much it makes me sick it even makes me rhyme
I hate the way you`re always right, I hate it when you lie,
I hate you when you make me laugh,even worse when you make me cry
I hate it that you`re not around,and the fact you didn`t call,
but mostly i hate the way I don`t hate you
...not even close
...not even a little bit
...not even at all.."
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Re: Shta je lepshe...

Postod Maglor the Minstrel u Sub Dec 30, 2006 1:29 pm

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Postod Earvena u Sub Dec 30, 2006 2:08 pm

"I hate the way you talk to me,and the way you cut your hair,
I hate the way you drive my car, I hate it when you stare,
I hate your big dumb combat boots, and the way you read my mind,
I hate you so much it makes me sick it even makes me rhyme
I hate the way you`re always right, I hate it when you lie,
I hate you when you make me laugh,even worse when you make me cry
I hate it that you`re not around,and the fact you didn`t call,
but mostly i hate the way I don`t hate you
...not even close
...not even a little bit
...not even at all.."
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Postod Maglor the Minstrel u Sub Dec 30, 2006 2:25 pm

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
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Postod Earvena u Sub Dec 30, 2006 2:32 pm

"I hate the way you talk to me,and the way you cut your hair,
I hate the way you drive my car, I hate it when you stare,
I hate your big dumb combat boots, and the way you read my mind,
I hate you so much it makes me sick it even makes me rhyme
I hate the way you`re always right, I hate it when you lie,
I hate you when you make me laugh,even worse when you make me cry
I hate it that you`re not around,and the fact you didn`t call,
but mostly i hate the way I don`t hate you
...not even close
...not even a little bit
...not even at all.."
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Re: Shta je lepshe...

Postod Maglor the Minstrel u Sub Dec 30, 2006 3:00 pm

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Postod Lazmodar u Sub Dec 30, 2006 4:50 pm

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Postod Earvena u Ned Dec 31, 2006 2:29 pm

"I hate the way you talk to me,and the way you cut your hair,
I hate the way you drive my car, I hate it when you stare,
I hate your big dumb combat boots, and the way you read my mind,
I hate you so much it makes me sick it even makes me rhyme
I hate the way you`re always right, I hate it when you lie,
I hate you when you make me laugh,even worse when you make me cry
I hate it that you`re not around,and the fact you didn`t call,
but mostly i hate the way I don`t hate you
...not even close
...not even a little bit
...not even at all.."
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Postod Lazmodar u Uto Jan 02, 2007 6:47 pm

@koleginica draga
Polaaako, dug je januar... Shalim se, pocheo sam sa prouchavanjem shtiva za ispite. :)

mishljenje povodom teme :
Meni je Venera lepsha jer je bliza mojoj ljudskoj nesavrshenosti, chak je i produkt te iste nesavrshenosti.
Brojevi su apstraktna stvar, za koje mislim da ne spadaju u kategoriju savrsheni/nesavrsheni, jer su apstraktni, pa kao takvi postoje samo kao predstava nechega imaginarnog.

Odgovor je koplikovan sam po sebi a josh kad pokusha da odgovori neko sa komplikovanim umom...to ne izlazi na dobro :D
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Re: Shta je lepshe...

Postod Urtel u Sre Jan 03, 2007 12:22 am

Kada sam vidio naslov teme ve sa se naostrio za #@!!@# no kad ja tamo no ono...

Elem niti sam umjetnik nit neki savrsen matematicar ali cu probati da iz mojih iskustava izvucem neke poente ...
Recimo kad programiram i kada napisem nesto dobro (najlakse ce se sa strane ovo prepoznati kao 5 linija koda koje zamenjuju 2 strance koda i nemozes da ih razumes na prvi pogled, znaci moras sesti i udubiti se da ih razumes) onda stvarno osecam neko zadovljstvo, ego je tu upleten i narcisoidnost :)..znaci osecam se lepo...mada ni sa kim u principu nemogu podeliti to zadovoljstvo jer niko i neshvata samo proces kako je doslo do toga ljudi u matematici vide samo rezultat (i sam niz primenjenih formula je rezultat) nemogu ce je vidjeti sled misli koji je doveo do resenja, a koje po meni u ovom slucaju i jesu najvece zadovoljstvo...
dok npr kada crtam nesto, ja i nemam neki proces, algoritam , jednostavno ruka mashe kako joj podsvjest govori ja tu i ne upotrbljavam mozak..mislm da upotrebljavam da bi tehnicki izveo radnju ali to je bas na nekom mehanickom nivou, tu je zadovljstvo u ..bah sad kad razmislim pa ja tu i nemam neko zadovljstvo...cak i kad ljudi kazu da je to super meni se cini nedovrsenim..nemam ni jednu sliku za koju mogu reci e to je gotovo..ma umjetnost je podsvesna...misticna i samim tim lepa...ali nekako imam osecaj kao da to nije to, nemam zadovoljstvo resenja problema jer problema nije ni bilo :))

uhh napisao sam 20 redova a nista nisam kaz'o kao da sam nas premijer...

da probam ukratko matematika(programiranje) mi pruza vece zadovljstvo ali ga je gotovo nemoguce podeliti sa drugima(koji nemaju ogromno poznavanje sistem itd), dok mi umjetnost i nije neko zadovoljstvo(nesto te vuce da to radis ali nemogu da definishem shta) ali je lepa zato sto su sami razlozi njenog nastajanja nedokucivi(misteriozni , podsvesni, ja stvarno nikada nisam sjeo i reko e sad cu da nacrtam to i to i to ce izgledatit tako i tako itd itd..to nekako dodje ..D-mol :)) i delenje emocije sa drugim je mnogo lakse jer ovde krajnji rezultat izaziva daljnu emociju kod drugih ...

shta je lepshe, bah to je svakako subjektivno pitanje te nema mnogo smisla odgovarati na forumu filozofija, no mislim da je i pitanje tako postavljeno da netrazi banalni odgovor tip ja vise volim Beep ! :)
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Postod Arwen u Uto Feb 06, 2007 10:04 pm

Valhalla! Deliverance... Why've you ever forgotten me?

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Postod Varda u Sre Feb 07, 2007 1:26 pm

mislim da je upravo arwen pogodila pricu. ili se raspravlja o poredjenju izmedju stvaranja umetnickog dela i resavanja matematickog problema ili izmedju gledanja umetnickog dela i gledanja vec resenog matematickog problema. i sa stanovista pitanja prirodnije je razmatrati (barem meni) ovo drugo, dakle posmatranja umetnickog dela i resenog problema. ako gledam recimo skulpturu ja cu se diviti njenoj skladnosti, materijalu, tome na koji nacin izbor materijala doprinosi opstoj lepoti skulpture i ako sve to ukupno dira neku moju unutrasnju zicu, eto katarze. isto je sa gledanjem matematickog dokaza, jer primecuje se skladnost u resavanju problema, vrsta matematickog aparata koriscena za resavanje zadatka, koliko ona doprinosi skladnosti resenja, njenoj boljoj razumljivosti i ako sve to dira neku unutrasnju zicu eto katarze. i umtnicka dela i matematicki problemi se delom stvaraju tj. resavaju zbog drugih, da bi smo neku svoju ideju preneli drugima, da bismo drugima dali na uvid kako mi vidimo stvari.
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