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 Doktore boli me procesor ili kako resiti probleme sa kompom.

Postod pirat_w u Pon Sep 26, 2005 10:06 am

Posto su se vec neki javili sa problemima, a nije ih bilo sramota da pitaju, resih da otvorim temu sa osnovnom temom da vi svi koji imate neki problem sa kompom postavite pitanje a neko ce se vec naci strucan da vam odgovori i pomognwe da problem prevazidjete.
Ja sam samoproklamovani expert za hardware i donekle software....
Dakle postavite pitanje nemojte se ustrucavati.

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Then they came for the Jews,
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Postod Kerensky u Pon Sep 26, 2005 10:36 am

Evo i ja se javljam kao instruktor. Jedina razlika između Pirata i mene je što sam ja profesionalac. Tako da slobodno pitajte. Imam 102 testera koji me svakodnevno smaraju sa svojim problemima. Vi ste amateri za njih.
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Postod Dorya u Pon Sep 26, 2005 12:05 pm

I would weep, but my tears have been stolen.
I would shout, but my voice has been taken.
Thus, I write...
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Postod pirat_w u Pon Sep 26, 2005 2:51 pm

Vidi valjda mi 23. godisnje iskustvo daje za pravo da kazem i da sam i ja profesionalac. Naravno nisam zavrsio neke velike skole oko toga ali kad vidim ove sto jesu ja mu dodjem ko doktor nauka.

No ljudi krenimo da vidimo sta ko ima od problema......

Ko ce prvi da kaze AAAAAAAAAAAAA.

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- but I was not a communist so I did not speak out.
Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists,
- but I was neither, so I did not speak out.
Then they came for the Jews,
- but I was not a Jew so I did not speak out.
And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me."

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 Re: Doktore boli me procesor ili kako resiti probleme sa kom

Postod duk u Pon Sep 26, 2005 4:03 pm

Prvo jedno pitanje: kolika je normalna temperatura Intel P4 procesora od 3.00 GHz?

Ako je odgovor <70C, onda imam još jedno pitanje: TAj procesor ima 10 meseci, i do pre dva meseca je radio normalno, ali onda jednog dana je program za merenje temperature procesora i sistema (CoreCenter) prijavio temperaturu od 72C, proverio sam u biosu, i isto je, možda koj stepen niža. Nekoliko dana kasnije, temperatura je dostigla 84C, tadaje počeo da se koči sistem, da usporava.
Prvo sam očistio procesor, i temperatura se smanjila na oko 52-64C. Onda je posle nekoliko dana počeo opet da se greje, obrisao sam ceo sistem, i ponovo ga reinstalirao. Od tada temperature od 75-84 stepena se postižu igranjem zahtevnih igara u roku od 2-3 sata. Inače svakodnevna temperatura je oko 64-72C.


Šta je u pitanju, i kako rešiti problem.
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Postod iceman u Pon Sep 26, 2005 5:51 pm

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Postod rinsvind u Pon Sep 26, 2005 9:06 pm

otrovni koji tacno procesor, ima vise na 3 ghz intela, reci tacnu oznaku, mada mozes da pogledas malo da procackas po netu, ali odma mogu da ti kazem da je ta temperatura koju ti imas katastrofalno visoka i to bez preterivanja.
Ako smo pali, padu smo bili skloni...
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Postod rinsvind u Pon Sep 26, 2005 9:08 pm

da jos nesto, iz iskustva licnog znam, da ako ti je kuciste negde prilicno zatvoreno, u stolu pod stolom, stesnjeno nedovoljo udaljeno od zida moze da poveca temperaturu procesera u obicnom radu za 5-10 stepeni
Ako smo pali, padu smo bili skloni...
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Postod pirat_w u Pon Sep 26, 2005 10:25 pm

"First they came for the Communists,
- but I was not a communist so I did not speak out.
Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists,
- but I was neither, so I did not speak out.
Then they came for the Jews,
- but I was not a Jew so I did not speak out.
And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me."

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Postod Kerensky u Uto Sep 27, 2005 11:47 am

Vidim da je pirat sve to odradio solidno. Samo ću napomenuti da sve temperature Intela preko 60 stepeni predstavljaju odstupanje od standarda jeru su isti napravljeni na plastičnoj podlozi pa posotji opasnost od deformacije i fizičkog oštećenja. AMD svoje procesore pravi na keramičkim podlogama zbog ranijih problema sa temperaturom tako da tamo temperatura nije toliki problem. Tamo je opasnost tek od 75-80.

Menjaj kuler obavezno, ili bar nađi nekog da ga dobro očisti i podmaže (ne savetujem, jer nije isto popravljan i novi kuler. A nisu to neke pare. Pošto si čistio "procesor" pretpostaviću da je u pitanju čišćenje kulera pa je temperatura pala, odgovara onaj piratov predlog. Titan je odličan, a ako si baš pri parama potraži neki Vulcano ili Magma model. To je set od više kulera i ako ti to ne ohladi procesor onda si stvarno  baksuz.

Što se tiče DVD drajva, problem je u poremećaju frekvencije lasera koji čita CD-ove (različite su frekvencije za CD i DVD i zato jedan radi savršeno). To što čita CD-RW diskove je posledica drugačije tehnologije narezivanja istih i kraćeg puta koji zrak prelazi (malo kraćeg, ali ovde dovoljno). Problem je hardverski i može da se reši, samo je pitanje koliko će te oderati. (ne bi trebalo da bude puno).

Kako se to desilo? Ili je oslabio zrak samog lasera ili se od nosanja i treskanja malo pomerio (ipak je to laptop). Ako je ovo prvo u pitanju je obrtaj jednog malog šrafa koji rešava tvoje probleme. Ako je drugo onda će biti malko skuplje.
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Postod seedlingstars u Uto Sep 27, 2005 12:57 pm

u vezi sa snimačem: imam sličan problem sa jednim prastarim CD RW drajvom HP i7200+.
nije da mi nešto specijalno treba taj snimač, al kad se već nalazi u jednom starom računaru, ako mogu da ga osposobim, što da ne.
Elem, taj snimač hoće da snima na RW diskovima, a neće na običnim. Je li tu može problem da se reši zavrtanjem nekog vijka?
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Postod Kerensky u Uto Sep 27, 2005 2:14 pm

Pitanje je koliko je star taj drajv i da li je to već rađeno. Sve ima svoje granice. Posle nekog vremena i posle par pojačavanja zraka dioda pregori i onda zdravo. Ali, odgovor je da verovatno može da se reši okretanjem tog šrafčića.
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Postod iceman u Uto Sep 27, 2005 7:15 pm

to pirat&Kery: Hvala na informacijama!
to Kery: Ne znam da li je laser oslabio ili je to posledica svakodnevnog nosenja? Ipak ga koristim po 10 sati dnevno, tumbajuci se od posla do kuce i obrnuto. Videcu to za zatezanje srafa. Ako to ne uspe, onda cu morati da ga ponesem serviseru u BG ili da nabavim zamenu, npr. USB DVD/rw drajv
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Postod Ha Lyl u Uto Sep 27, 2005 10:10 pm

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