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Game of Thrones serija - 1. sezona (SPOILERS AHOY!)

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Postod m.ACA.k u Ned Jun 05, 2011 6:05 pm

Smešna stvar je da su sjebane scene, baš scene sexa :)

neke nepotrebne, neke predugačke, neke totalno("pozerski") promašene, a u knjizi toliko toga, nisam očekivao da će baš one biti glavni kamen spoticanja kod gledališta......
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Postod High Duke u Ned Jun 05, 2011 9:39 pm

Kao pozitivnu stvar lezbejske scene sa pocetka sedme epizode mogu da navedem to da se nisu pesnicale zguza, nego spreda. Poceo sam da mislim da to tamo spreda niko ne radi
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Postod Eärendil The Mariner u Ned Jun 05, 2011 10:41 pm

Sing forever, proud and strong,
Anthem of life, conquering song.
Though times of fate onwards run,
The song of hope, once begun,
Will ever more remain...
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Postod High Duke u Ned Jun 05, 2011 10:49 pm

Izvinjavam se na tako povrsnoj analizi jedne kljucne scene :P
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Postod Nemini u Pon Jun 06, 2011 12:52 am

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Postod Margiloth u Pon Jun 06, 2011 8:15 am

"Will fate seduce you to her will?
Not if you struggle with all your Skill.
Summon your allies, locate the trained,
Consummate all from what you’ve refrained.
There’s a future not yet fashioned,
Founded by your fiery passions!"
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Postod Aducabar u Pon Jun 06, 2011 10:03 am

Još jedna dobra epizoda, scenario očekivano mahom prepisan iz knjige. Vukovi isto tako očekivano nisu izostavljeni. Rob je takođe imao dosta skrin tajma, i stvarno je dobro odradio posao, odličan kasting. Najveća zamerka na ovu epizodu je montaža. Martin je i rekao da su tumbali scene, pa valjda nije do njegovog pisanija, ali smeta mi puno prilepljenih scena istih likova, i malo kvari dinamiku to što je sva akcija u prvom poluvremenu. Ali je OK, nakon nekih jako loših epizoda, sad je serija prilično gledljiva, vrlo dobar 4. Tako će čini i se i ostati do kraja sezone, nadam se da će u sledećoj napraviti iskorak ka odličnom.

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Postod Margiloth u Pon Jun 06, 2011 10:26 am

Excellent! Najbolja epizoda do sada! Konacno!!!

Ali samo malo malo malo kritika:

- Zar je Drogova rana bila tako naivna?
- Hodor kao utvara O.o
- Speaking of which, utvara koju je Jon savladao izgleda smesno, kao kakav grbavac iz crno-belih filmova na temu Frankenstajna.
- Bolton fali.


I hvala nebesima, nije bilo nikakvog eksplicitnog silovanja zena u dotrackim pohodima, iako toga u knjizi ima. Svaka cast!
Sansa je konacno imala priliku da se pokaze u pravom svetlu; izraz na njenom licu dok ponizavaju Baristana je neprocenjiv! Samo sam cekala da se zaplace, ali ona je vuk, a ne riba ;)
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Postod Nemini u Pon Jun 06, 2011 10:59 am

The Pointy End je ubedljivo najbolja epizoda do sada. Nije što je naš, ali GRRM je tata za Benioffa i Weissa. :da: :mrgreen: Sansa nije skot, Rob liči na sebe iz knjige i ima više od 2 rečenice teksta, čak se i Rikon pojavio, ima i vukova, a od golotinje imamo ni manje, ni više nego par sekundi Hodora u bogošumi. :lol:
Arja i Sirio su fenomenalni i jako mi se dopada GRRMova odluka da Siriovu sudbinu ostavi i dalje otvorenom (not today). Iako mi Arja nije omiljen lik, to njeno poglavlje volim toliko da sam ga čak koristila i u nastavi (glagoli su upper intermediate to advanced), a gotovo je sigurno da ću u čas sada uključiti i insert iz serije. (What did the teacher do ? Find the word/phrase in the text. Now, demonstrate. What are the differences between the text and the video? etc)
Ovo je takodje prva epizoda u kojoj je Drogo onakav kakav treba da bude, ali mi je Deni i dalje bez dovoljno autoriteta i nisam joj poverovala kada je rekla ono da zmajevi jedu i ovce i konje, a bila sam dirnuta kada je Džora rekao "Gold to hire ships, Princess... ships to sail to Westeros" dok je u krupnom planu bilo lice deteta.

Najmanje mi se dopao napad zombija...nekako mi je nedovoljno dramatično i previše zbrzano. Zombiji bi trebalo da su crni, ako me pamćenje služi, ali to je minor issue.

@Margi: Drogova rana je bila na bradavici, ne znam zašto su to promenili, i u knjizi jeste na početku delovala bezazleno.
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Postod Maidros Visoki u Pon Jun 06, 2011 12:13 pm

Odlicna epizoda stvarno. Malo da komentarisem likove i ja. Saga je malko sitan, trebao je da igra Timet koji je veliki ko kiklop, ali nema veze to je nas Saga koga svi volimo. Tirion je sve bolji, lord Tivin je i dalje baja. Sansu su konacno pogodili, bas je prava pticica. Opet me nervira sto nema ser Brindara, ali jurisamo na jug bice ga uskoro nadam se. Verjum da ce on zameniti Titiosa Blekvuda u ispadu. Izgleda da se nekome silno dopalo kako Drogo igra haku, pa ce to svuda da guraju, mada je ona scena sa Magom i dvobojem zanimljiva. Megi Miri Maz Dur je trebala da bude Gorica Popovic. Ser Baristan je bio sjajan, tuzan i ogorcen, bez ni malo teatralnosti. Cuke su konacno dobile malo vise mesta i obe su bile sjajne. Mada sam mislio da cu Duh da bude samojed ne alzasanin. Zobiji su malo previs Brains fazon, ali ok nema veze. Sirio je bog, i pored naglaska pica majstora i da sve sam sigurniji da je on Dzaken. U predhodnoj epizodi kaze da ima samo jedan bog, a to je smrt. Velidzon Amber, ogroman je, prica kao Skot, ima smisao za humor vola. Cista petica. D men epizode lord Rob Stark! Odlicno igra momak, izgleda kao Rob iz knjige i na kraju ona scena sa spijunom, vrhunska scena, mesto joj je bilo u knjizi.
The lunatic is in my head.
The lunatic is in my head.
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Postod High Duke u Pon Jun 06, 2011 1:16 pm

Eh, kada bi Martin mogao da pise sve scenarije...
Mada onda verovatno ne bi nikad zavrsio serijal.
Meni je samo zao sto je ova scena skracena. Videlo se da se Martin grci da sve sto treba ubaci u vreme koje mu je zadato
“Here, boy. Melt it down and add it to the others, if you like. It will do you more good than the swords in the hands of these five. Perhaps Lord Stannis will chance to sit on it when he takes your throne.”
He took the long way out, his steps ringing loud against the floor and echoing off the bare stone walls. Lords and ladies parted to let him pass. Not until the pages had closed the great oak-and-bronze doors behind him did Sansa hear sounds again: soft voices, uneasy stirrings, the shuffle of papers from the council table. “He called me boy,” Joffrey said peevishly, sounding younger than his years. “He talked about my uncle Stannis too.”
“Idle talk,” said Varys the eunuch. “Without meaning . . . ”
“He could be making plots with my uncles. I want him seized and questioned.” No one moved. Joffrey raised his voice. “I said, I want him seized!”
Janos Slynt rose from the council table. “My gold cloaks will see to it, Your Grace.”
“Good,” said King Joffrey. Lord Janos strode from the hall, his ugly sons double-stepping to keep up as they lugged the great metal shield with the arms of House Slynt.
“Your Grace,” Littlefinger reminded the king. “If we might resume, the seven are now six. We find ourselves in need of a new sword for your Kingsguard.”
Joffrey smiled. “Tell them, Mother.”
“The king and council have determined that no man in the Seven Kingdoms is more fit to guard and protect His Grace than his sworn shield, Sandor Clegane.”
“How do you like that, dog?” King Joffrey asked.
The Hound’s scarred face was hard to read. He took a long moment to consider. “Why not? I have no lands nor wife to forsake, and who’d care if I did?” The burned side of his mouth twisted. “But I warn you, I’ll say no knight’s vows.”
“The Sworn Brothers of the Kingsguard have always been knights,” Ser Boros said firmly.
Let your blows fall because faith is my shield and valor is my sword

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His hearth know only virtue
His blade defends the helpless
His might upholds the weak
His words speak only truth
His wrath undoes the wicked
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Postod Aducabar u Pon Jun 06, 2011 2:43 pm

Sad mi je drago što je Martinu zapala Blekvoter epizoda u narednoj sezoni, to je koliko toliko garancija da ništa neće biti isečeno bez potrebe. Inače...



Plašio sam se da će bitke da izbace, ali reklo bi se da je sve tu (sa malim izmenama u Robovoj taktici čini mi se).

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Postod Eärendil The Mariner u Pon Jun 06, 2011 2:53 pm

Hehehe, naravno da autor ima najbolji osjećaj za adaptaciju sopstvenog materijala, naravno - ako ima iskustva u mediju, kao što ima Martin.
Ipak, ne treba zaboraviti da je ovo osma epizoda, sa završenom ekspozicijom i pregršt bitnih momenata koji pokreću radnju i bitnim razvojem likova - prosto poslastica za pisca. :D
Što se tiče bitaka, Aducabare, mislim da nema šanse da ne urade maksimalno moguće, jer inače ne bi štedjeli na vukovima i sličnim detaljima koji jedu budžet u drugim epizodama. ;)
Sing forever, proud and strong,
Anthem of life, conquering song.
Though times of fate onwards run,
The song of hope, once begun,
Will ever more remain...
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Postod High Duke u Pon Jun 06, 2011 2:58 pm

Meni se cini da se Martin grcio da ubaci u epizodu sve sto treba, ali nažalost, nasledio je takvu situaciju da su malko sjebali timeline do sada i gomilu stvari koje jednostavno nije mogao da izvadi. Jebale ih dodate scene, kada ovako bitnije stvari moraju da zbrzavaju sada zbog njih. Ne mogu da prežalim nepostojanje odnosa Hounda i Sanse, kada sam video trejler, obradovao sam se, ali se cela stvar i svela samo na njegov jezivi kez.
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His hearth know only virtue
His blade defends the helpless
His might upholds the weak
His words speak only truth
His wrath undoes the wicked
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