GROZNICA CEKANJA - Kad ce taj PLES bre!!! 12.7.2011.

[Aradela]

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Evi i Dzonovih poglavlja iako sam ih vec postovao....neka budu sva na jednoj temi....

CHAPTER 1 JON

The chapter starts off a bit differently than normal, namely that we get Jon warging in Ghost beneath the wall. Ghost notes that the pack is scattered, that Lady and Grey Wind are dead, that his brother is nearby. He wanders a bit, then 'the moon' starts screeching Snow. 'Course, the moon is none other than the Old Bear's raven(who wants for a name IMO), and then we get a *wonderful* Dolorous Edd bit about roast raven and prunes. Its really, really friggin funny. Jon decides he can't wait for breakfast, that he has to deal with Stannis. He notes that Stannis is in the Old Bear's quarters and that he's in Donal Noye's old rooms(and that Noye's left little behind in this world).

On the way over to Stannis, he goes into some thought about the wildling pens, Stannis and the Queen's Men, etc. He also notes he hates having bodyguards, and refuses to let them follow him around. While walking, he is approached and challenged by some rather large chap who's thinking that Jon's not well suited to Longaxe[sic] and that they should fight. Jon gives him a nice brush off, but it highlights the dynamic of how the men in black and the idiots with Stannis are getting along. Jon finally shows up to see Stannis, and they get into it pretty good. Stannis rails about the North and only the Karstarks coming to him, about how some 10-year old Mormont girl recognizes his cause is lost and that he's an ass, etc. He then rails at Jon for not signing a grant giving Stannis all the abandoned castles on the wall to reward his loyal followers.

Its revealed here Jon's granted Stannis the Nightfort and that Yarwick thinks it will take 6 months to renovate. In response, Jon tells Stannis to make his men serve under men of the Night's Watch, and Stannis flips again, drawing Lightbringer and threatening to make someone the 999th LC, on the grounds that Thorne and Slynt are quetioning the vote. Jon hits the non-present Slynt with a good jibe about his honor and worth. Jon doesn't buckle, and he leaves. Melisandre tags along, wearing her usual red bit while Jon's freezing his cajones off in woolens. She flirts with him a bit, lets the proverbial axe drop that he's in all her visions in the fires now, that he needs to watch his back, and then the chapter ends with the old favorite of 'You know nothing, Jon Snow,' from Melisandre.

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Takodje Jon 1 Chapter samo malo bolje prepricano....

JON 1 CHAPTER (2-Bolje)

George started out by saying, ˇ§Iˇ¦m going to read a chapter ˇK from the Great Gatsby.ˇ¨ Everyone laughed. Then he went into how he had read half the book at conventions before AFFC came out so he was only going to read old chapters atm.

Here is my very summarized summary of Jon 1

It starts off with a wolf dream. Ghost is running through the night. He thinks of his packmates spread across the land. His black brother is killing a goat (interesting for those that think Rickon is with Howland Reed), Nymeria is howling with a bunch of her cousins in warmer weather. And one is lost and gone (Summer). The moon is talking to him (I forgot the word). Jon wakes up and it is day though in the wolf dreams it is always night. Mormontˇ¦s raven lands on Jonˇ¦s chest and says that word I forgot a few times. Jon gets a little irritated with the bird. Dolorous Edd comes in and makes a joke about breakfast that I canˇ¦t recall. Something to do with prunes.

Stannisˇ¦s men have been sleeping with the wildling women, both kingˇ¦s men and queenˇ¦s men and even a few black brothers. It is not known where Tormund is but Jon thinks he will lead a force against the Wall again. Jon starts thinking of burning dead babies and how they have done it. Then burning live babies and how Melisandre wants to do it. Aemon mentioned to Jon that there is power in a kingˇ¦s blood. Stannis wants to burn Mance and Manceˇ¦s son, the son last so he will be a king.

Jon thinks that Bran and Rickon are dead but that their direwolves must have survived. Did some part of his brothers live on in the direwolves? It was a disturbing thought.

Jon is now living in Donal Noyeˇ¦s modest rooms behind the armory. Noye did not leave much stuff; he mainly loved his work.

Stannis has been riding around the area around the Wall, going to Moleˇ¦s Town and down into the Gift. Some stuff we knew before like Iron Emmett being the Master-at-arms. Kingˇ¦s Men are in one corner and queenˇ¦s men in another. Ser Godric Giant Slayer challenges Jon. Apparently he killed a giant in the battle at the Wall. Jon says, ˇ§I fear I must speak to King Stannisˇ¨ or something like that and Godric makes fun of him for saying ˇ§fear.ˇ¨

Jon runs into Sam who has a letter for Aemon. It is from House Crowl (I think) and probably another refusal for Stannis. When Jon asks Sam how his archery is going, Sam says he found a good book on archery. (IMG:style_emoticons/New/smiley2.gif)

Jon walks into Stannisˇ¦ solar and thinks Ygritte was touched by fire but Melisandre was fire and her hair was blood and flame. Stannis is seated behind a table. There is the description (very detailed but we already had it so I took a break). Leara Mormont, ten years old, wrote a letter responding to Stannis saying she only recognizes the King in the North and that is a Stark. At this point, Jon thinks of what Leara would think of Jon, King in the North, with the last name Stark. It is puzzling why Leara wrote the letter because there are older Mormonts who could have written it.

The Karstarks are with Stannis but the Karstarks had no choice. They were rebels to the Iron Throne and betrayed the King in the North.

Some stuff I missed then Melisandre asks where the other kings were when the wildlings attacked the Wall? Jon says they were elsewhere then gives an explanation of why the north wonˇ¦t fight for him.

Stannis says he needs gold. Jon suggests the Manderlys for that; they are the richest of the Stark bannermen. Melisandre suggests a wildling wife for Wyman. Jon thinks he is too old and fat and has grandchildren. If Val doesnˇ¦t like him, she will slit his throat in the night.

Mance has been talking to Stannis. Stannis likes him and respects him but says the man is an oathbreaker to the NW. He cannot let him live or else others will desert.

Stannis asks if Jon will sign the grant. Stannis wants to garrison all the Wall castles. Not only that, Stannis wants to actually give away the castles to his lords and knights, even including Rattleshirt.

The topic of Gilly and the babe comes up. Jon thinks he has to tread carefully. He says he has decided to send away Gillyˇ¦s babe as he is weak. Gilly will go with him and Jon will find a wetnurse for Manceˇ¦s babe.

Jon says he has given a lot of things to Stannis. Stannis replies that Jon has denied him the castles. Jon responds they were built to defend the Wall.

Winterfell comes up and Jon thinks it says it belongs to Sansa. Stannis asks if Jon is so ready to give up Winterfell to Tyrion Lannister.

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[Weenie]

Da li Martin preteruje sa akcentovanjem teškoća Denine vladavine u Slaver's Bay, i kulturalnih razlika?

Možda sam paranoičan (od kako je D. Simmons prolupao), ali čini mi se da je čovek još pod utiskom Američkih problema sa koloniz/pacifikacijom Iraka.

[Margiloth]

Sladak avatar.

Pretpostavljam da nisi mogao da se setis lozinke za drugi nick, po kojem si mnogo poznatiji ovde

Martin mozda nije preterao sa akcentovanjem tih razlika (one su ocigledne i ocekivane), ali je svakako razvukao pricu u bespotrebnom pravcu. Zivot je tezak, so fuckin' what? Wub U, Weenie. Drago mi je da si se vratio. Ovih dana sam skroz u fazonu tvog avatara.

[Weenie]

Hey there, Sverige.

Pa to kažem, deluje mi kao da preterano razvlači u tom delu. Videćemo koliko od toga će se zadržati, pošto će verovatno na kraju i DWD da metastazira...

Mada, dok ne dozvoljava RW stavovima da značajno utiču na samu priču, nije strašno.

(OT: Znam password za $ock Puppet, ali mi ne da Sistem da se registrujem iz nekog razloga od kako sam promenio mail... a tek sam se vratio na forum. Pitao sam na odgovarajućem pf-u, valjda će se ispraviti.
Dokle se stiglo sa Sandmanom? Mail.)