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Greške u serijalu

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 Re: Greške u serijalu

Postod Margiloth u Čet Okt 13, 2005 9:42 am

"Will fate seduce you to her will?
Not if you struggle with all your Skill.
Summon your allies, locate the trained,
Consummate all from what you’ve refrained.
There’s a future not yet fashioned,
Founded by your fiery passions!"
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Postod Bloodraven u Čet Okt 13, 2005 2:01 pm

And I like making the speeches that are obligatory at such occasions as these. They present such golden opportunities. A podium. A captive audience. A license to say whatever is on my mind. I can bore you to tears by reading my mail, indoctrinate you with my political views, regale you with bloodthirsty and embarrassing anecdotes about my friends. Other writers do all of these things. Not me, though.

  A Guest of Honor speech can be used for a much more noble and uplifting purpose.

  To get revenge.

George R.R. Martin Guest of Honor speech: Othercon III, College Station, Texas
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Postod Joramun u Čet Okt 13, 2005 5:07 pm

...and Joramun blew the Horn of Winter, and woke giants from the earth...
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Postod High Duke u Sub Okt 15, 2005 11:46 pm

Ali kako je nabavio majke ti? Mislim jeste da Amazon tvrdi da je knjiga izasla jos pre sest dana...
Let your blows fall because faith is my shield and valor is my sword

A knight is sworn to valour
His hearth know only virtue
His blade defends the helpless
His might upholds the weak
His words speak only truth
His wrath undoes the wicked
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Postod Joramun u Pon Avg 24, 2009 3:26 am

...and Joramun blew the Horn of Winter, and woke giants from the earth...
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 Re: Greške u serijalu

Postod Aducabar u Pon Avg 24, 2009 11:41 am


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 Re: Greške u serijalu

Postod Joramun u Sre Avg 26, 2009 12:48 am

Е, taj sam link posećivao odavno, ali zaboravio sam već da postoji. Hvala!
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Postod Aducabar u Pon Dec 07, 2009 11:24 pm

Obnavljam gradivo, i ovaj put definitivno čitam pažljivije nego ikad, i primetio sam jednu gotovo nesumnjivu grešku. Semovo pretposlednje poglavlje u Gozbi, kad razmišlja o Dalinom klincu: The boy was Mance Rayder's son and Craster's grandson, after all. Očigledno je ovo "Krasterov unuk" problematično. Imamo nekoliko mogućih tumačenja:
- Ne radi se o Martinovoj, već o Semovoj grešci, on je u svojoj glavi sintetisao dve bebe. Ali ovo je malo verovatno, teško da bi Sem napravio ovakvu grešku, a i Gilinog sina do tada uvek naziva Krasterovim sinom, ne unukom.
- Radi se o Martinovoj ničim izazvanoj grešci, and it's well and good, ljudski je grešiti.
- Radi se o Martinovoj podsvesnoj grešci (ovo je najzabavnije tumačenje svakako). Informacija koju nam pisac saopštava je tačna, mada je očigledno da Sem ne može da zna njenu istinitost. Dakle ili je Mens Krasteru sin, ili mu je Dala ćerka. I to pre ova prva varijanta, Gili bi poznavala Dalu da joj je sestra. Znamo da Kraster sinove žrtvuje, verovatno ostavljajući ih negde da ih Tuđini pokupe. A Mensa su, ako se dobro sećam, rendžeri pronašli negde preko Zida i odgajili kao svoga. 1+1? Ako je ovo tačno svakako baca novo svetlo na animozitet Mensa i Krastera.

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 Re: Greške u serijalu

Postod Daemon Blackfyre u Uto Dec 08, 2009 12:12 am

interesantno. mada manje-vise nebitno za nastavak serijala. ali interesantno.
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 Re: Greške u serijalu

Postod Margiloth u Uto Dec 08, 2009 12:12 pm

Sećam se toga... meni je delovalo kao greška u printu, kao ono sa rodoslovom Targarjena u prvoj knjizi. Kao da neke reči fale, recimo ovako:
The boy was Mance Rayder's son, and the other Craster's grandson, after all.

Haha, the other :P

A ako nije greška, odakle Semu onda uopšte informacija da je Mance Crasterov sin?? :?
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 Re: Greške u serijalu

Postod Joramun u Uto Dec 08, 2009 1:25 pm

...and Joramun blew the Horn of Winter, and woke giants from the earth...
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 Re: Greške u serijalu

Postod Aducabar u Uto Dec 08, 2009 2:54 pm

Nije sigurno ta "the other one" varijanta, razmišlja samo o Dalinom sinu. A ni Sem nikako ne može da zna da su Mens i Kraster rod (ako uopšte jesu), zato i jeste greška u obe varijante.

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 Re: Greške u serijalu

Postod GreyWolf u Sub Jul 24, 2010 8:11 pm

Jedna tehnička greška: divljani napadaju zid i svojim malim rožnatim lukovima dobacuju do vrha 700 stopa visokog zida. Nijedan luk ne bi mogao da napravi takav podvig,a naročito ne sa dovoljno preostale kinetičke energije da nekoga i ubije.
Sledeća nedoumica: Sem provodi Ridove i Brena kroz Crnu kapiju i kaže da Hladnoruki nije mogao da prođe zid zbog magija utkanih u njega. Ako je tako,kako su u prvoj knjizi uspeli da prenesu onu dvojicu mrtvih koji će kasnije postati utvare i napasti Mormonta? Da li je ključ u tom "kasnije"? Mada magija zida ne bi imala taj "bag",već mi pre liči da je Ser Slanina napravio mali previd.
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 Re: Greške u serijalu

Postod Aducabar u Sub Jul 24, 2010 10:56 pm

Za streljaštvo nisam ekspert, ali kod zombija iz prve knjige mislim da je relevantno to što su ih crna braća unela. A i da nisu mislim da utvarama ne bi bio problem da prođu kroz kapiju u zidu, ne postoji nikakva nevidljiva i neprolazna barijera, magija samo pomaže Noćnoj straži (inače Straža ne bi ni morala da postoji).

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