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The Mystery Knight

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 Re: The Mystery Knight

Postod Maidros Visoki u Čet Maj 20, 2010 8:16 pm

Za citanje deluje komicno, ali Bloodravenu najverovatnije nije delovala tako smesno.
Mnogo toga je u igri. Taj zamak je preblizu Kraljevoj luci, snazni brzi udarac i eto novog kralja, postoji lepa sansa da je i mac Crnovatra tu, lepo ga je imati nazad, moda i Beeterstele bude medju zvanicama, eto licnog motiva. Sve vredi licno videti, a ne slusati od raznih kepeca i lasica.
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Postod $ock Puppet u Pet Maj 21, 2010 12:55 pm

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 Re: The Mystery Knight

Postod Nemini u Pet Maj 21, 2010 1:30 pm

Jeste, ali je bilo za očekivati da će ga Daemon Jr., ako se već rešio da sedne na Gvozdeni Presto, doneti u otadžbinu.
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 Re: The Mystery Knight

Postod Maidros Visoki u Pet Maj 21, 2010 10:33 pm

I dalje je lord Recni samo obican, verovatno i iskopleksiran covek. Jako bitan faktor.
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Postod Maidros Visoki u Pet Maj 21, 2010 10:34 pm

A da sacekamo neku drugu novelu pa da vidimo? Moze Martin da kaze da je lord Recni bio maskiran u Slinavog Valdera Freja.
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 Re: The Mystery Knight

Postod wolfwarder u Sub Maj 22, 2010 7:59 pm

Napravio sam na Fejsu grupu za sve ljubitelje epske i naucne fantastike... Pa ako je neko voljan da se pridruzi dobrodosao je...

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Epska-i-N ... 0340710109

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Isnt it horrible how a family can be tornm apart by something as simple as a pack of wolves!!!!!!
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Postod Margiloth u Pon Maj 24, 2010 11:11 am

Hm, prebrzo sam skrolovala kroz vaše komentare da bih videla je li iko spomenuo Brown Benn Plumm-a, sellsward-a koji je trenutno u Deninoj službi? Tvrdi da je njegov predak (Ossifer Plumm) oženio targarjensku princezu. Nešto mi govori da je ta princeza bila jedan od crnih zmajčića... :) U svakom slučaju, bio Maynard prerušeni Bloodraven ili ne, držim porodicu Plumm na oku od sada pa nadalje. Mislim da nismo dobili dovoljno dokaza da je Plumm u stvari Bloodraven, tako da ostajem diplomatski uzdržana. Mogući su različiti scenariji. To što je Maynard Plumm bio vazda slobodan u svom izražavanju, ne znači apsolutno da je pritajena Desnica (skriveni gavran), već samo da zna da je dotični on his way i da on sam može da radi i govori šta mu se prohte.

Što se novele tiče, moraću da se složim sa Puppetom, Nemini i mojim archnemesisom Daemonom - bledunjava je i zaista najslabija od sve tri. Zaplet je prilično tanak, i prosto ne mogu da verujem da su lordovi bili tako naivni i na tako glupav način pokušavali da započnu još jednu pobunu (zasnovan na Daemonovim snovima - eh, koliko smo samo snova do sada videli, i večito se hvatamo za njih, a lepo je Dunk primetio "Dreams were a treacherous ground on which to build." - nije baš tako glup, zar ne?). Što je u suštini sumnjivo samo po sebi. Vrlo je moguće da je Bittersteel hteo da se ratosilja malog dendija. I često mi se tokom čitanja vrtelo kroz glavu pitanje: zar je cela zavera morala da se obavi tako pompezno? Daemon je mogao da dođe incognito na svadbu, da mu se da jaje pod izgovorom da je ukradeno - et voila kopilanska pobuna!

Skoro sam komentarisala sa Telcontarom novelu, pa evo šta sam njemu napisala (parafraziram):
Previše ima malih i nebitnih lordova, da ne spominjem hedge knights, nije da sam se pogubila, nego me je smorio... U stvari smorio je sa jugom, jedva čekam da dođu na Sever, smrzla sam se kad je spomenuto da se Lannisteri i Starkovi bore protiv Greyjoya... Nekako mi se više o tome čita, nego o Targovima.

Ovde je dobro poznato da sam ja veliki Targ fan (= Marg the Targ), ali vreme je za promene. Naravno da je jako zanimljivo čitati dalje o Bloodravenu i Maekaru i borbi za presto, ali nije loše napraviti pauzu. Što se Bloodraven-a tiče i njegove teatralne pojave na samom kraju, isto ću ostati donekle uzdržana. Naravno da se sva ozarim kad se pojavi neki vižljast lik sa dugom belom kosom, ožiljcima i/ili fizičkim nedostacima :P ali to nije dovoljno za konkretne stavove. Ne mogu da kažem da je samo običan čovek i dobra desnica, iako ga prate jezive glasine, niti išla toliko daleko da ga poredim sa Tyrionom kao što mnogi rade, mada ima u tome istine. Čini se da je na kraju uspeo da zadobije poverenje Dunka i Egga, a možda mu je i to bio jedan od ciljeva.

Vidim da se na westerosu dosta kolju oko lokacije Whitewalls-a, budući da u vreme rata za presto (dakle, trenutno :)) više ne postoje. Ja sam prilično loš poznavalac vesteroške geografije (ta ne može se biti ekspert i za to i za targarjensku istoriju :P), pa me zanima šta vi mislite.

Za kraj, ova rečenica mi se nekako zalepila i ne pušta: "If a living dragon appeared again in Westeros, the lords and smallfolk alike would flock to whichever prince could lay claim to it." Really? Možda pre sto godina. Mada prilično sam ubeđena da bi puk stao uz Deni čim bi se uz nju pojavili zmajevi.
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Summon your allies, locate the trained,
Consummate all from what you’ve refrained.
There’s a future not yet fashioned,
Founded by your fiery passions!"
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Postod $ock Puppet u Sre Maj 26, 2010 2:49 am

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 Re: The Mystery Knight

Postod Margiloth u Sre Maj 26, 2010 8:14 am

"Will fate seduce you to her will?
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There’s a future not yet fashioned,
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 Re: The Mystery Knight

Postod Nemini u Sre Maj 26, 2010 9:33 am

Mislim da je gotovo sigurno da je Daemon gay.

Dunk shrugged away the lordling's hand which had begun to knead his shoulder
...

Wine makes all things possible, Ser Duncan. You'd look a god in white, I think, but if the color does not suit you, perhaps you would prefer to be a lord?"

Ja sam ovaj mali exchange na mesečini shvatila kao "sve za tebe, big boy". :)
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Postod Margiloth u Sre Maj 26, 2010 1:39 pm

Što se tiče cvećki: možda ja samo odbijam da priznam da nam je Martin ubacio još jednog nakalupljenog geja, jer zaista su svi nekako jako slični. Kada sam kratko prokomentarisala prvih par stranica novele koje su se pre par meseci pojavile na netu, napisala sam da sumnjičim Fiddlera da je Baratheon, jer me je suviše podsetio na Renlija.

Što se tiče jezera, geografije i udaljenosti između tačke A i tačke B, Martin je rekao samo ovo "The Wall is a hundred leagues long. A league is three miles. Go from there." But it's so haaaaaaaaaaaard...

Kad je Bloodraven naredio da se Whitewalls sruše do temelja i pospe so, prva misao mi je bila: "Saltpants!" Ne sećam se doduše istorije Solana, morala bih da se vratim malo na Gozbu i obnovim gradivo (skoro sve sam pozaboravljala... što je dobro, zar ne?). U svakom slučaju, čini se da su Whitewalls u tom kraju. Jezero je možda neki odliv Trozupca koji možda više ne postoji (Dugo Leto ga isušilo? :D). U prilog ovome naravno ide i ova Dunkova rečenica, kad Egg treba da se da u beg sa Butterwellom: ""Don't stay with him any longer than you need to. Give Rain his head and get away before His Lordship changes sides again. Make for Maidenpool, it's closer than King's Landing."

Kako god, i ja sam zbunjena. Da je lepo pisalo da prelaze reku, a ne jezero, stvari bi bile mnogo jasnije i logičnije. Poučena iskustvom nakon finala "Lost"-a, ovaj detalj je mestimično do pretežno nebitan :P

Btw, intrigira me Mad Danelle Lothston.
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Postod Joramun u Sre Maj 26, 2010 9:15 pm

...and Joramun blew the Horn of Winter, and woke giants from the earth...
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