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Let zmajeva

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Postod Aradela u Sre Okt 12, 2005 8:07 am

Hihihi... pa sada... nije li to malo suvise strogo? Sta bismo onda trebali da uradimo sa drugim prevodiocima cijim smo prevodima nezadovoljni. Da ih spalimo? ::D::
Kazes mi da moram da nestanem
Kao cvece koje negujem
Nista od mog imena da ne ostane
Nista slavno da ne postane
Ali jos su mlade baste koje zalivah
Pevace se opet pesme koje pevah.


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Postod High Duke u Sre Okt 12, 2005 11:22 am

Mislim da bi se Trol slozio :)
Let your blows fall because faith is my shield and valor is my sword

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His hearth know only virtue
His blade defends the helpless
His might upholds the weak
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Postod Aradela u Čet Okt 13, 2005 12:56 pm

Kazes mi da moram da nestanem
Kao cvece koje negujem
Nista od mog imena da ne ostane
Nista slavno da ne postane
Ali jos su mlade baste koje zalivah
Pevace se opet pesme koje pevah.


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Postod baxus u Čet Okt 13, 2005 10:37 pm

pa ako lose urade svoj posao treba ih kritikovati...
ne vidim nista lose u tome...

inace, prevodilac leta zmajeva u izdanju alnarija (goran tokovic) je uzeo starije izdanje koje jos 1989 izdao OPUS a prevela linda tasovac i prepisao ga od reci do reci, unevsi 0,0001% izmena...
ja smatram da to nije ok, a ako se ne slazete sa mnom voleo bih da cujem razloge...
bilo bi mi jako drago da cujem nightfillera po tom pitanju...
ako neko ne veruje, imam obe knjige trenutno ispred sebe i spreman sam da ih podnesem na uvid...
first they ignore you...
then they laugh at you...
then they fight you...
then you win!
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Postod High Duke u Pet Okt 14, 2005 1:12 am

Nisi u toku baxuse. Ovo izmedju mene i Aradele je bilo nesto interno, takoreci smo bolje upuceni u Alnarijevo izdanje Belog zmaja. I koliko znamo, prevod ce da bude prilicno bolji. Nikakve dalje informacije ne odajemo.
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His might upholds the weak
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Postod Nimrodel u Pet Okt 14, 2005 5:59 am

nightflier u to vreme nije bio u Alnariju. Da, prvi deo je zaista samo adaptacija starog prevoda i to prilično loše urađena - ta, pogledajte samo podnaslovnu sintagmu - Zmajevi jahači Perna. To znači da ti jahači pripadaju nekom zmaju ili da ti zmajevi nekoga jašu... Npr, prvi slučaj:
A onda svi pogledaše u starog zmaja sa strahopoštovanjem i uzviknuše:
-Ti si bio dobar i mi ćemo te služiti, neka bi ceo svet znao da se od danas zovemo Zmajevi jahači i da štitimo granice tvog zmajskog kraljevstva.

Drugi slučaj:
A tada istrčaše mladi zmajevi, zajahaše vetrove u svom besu, a iz doline ljudi povikaše:
-Gledajte, zmajevi jahači ponovo krote starog Severca! Ponovo se zmajska vrsta probudila! Sakrijte device, roditelji! Ponovo jašu zmajevi jahači!

Iako u ovom izdanju na naslovnici stoji Zmajevi jahači Perna, mislim da će to imenovanje izgledati drugačije u samom prevodu ovog dela.
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Postod Aradela u Pet Okt 14, 2005 8:31 am

Kazes mi da moram da nestanem
Kao cvece koje negujem
Nista od mog imena da ne ostane
Nista slavno da ne postane
Ali jos su mlade baste koje zalivah
Pevace se opet pesme koje pevah.


moj blog http://doktorkabg.blogspot.com/[/color]
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 Re: Let zmajeva

Postod Lirras u Sre Okt 19, 2005 10:34 am

Hmmm...voleo bih da se docepam tog izdanja, da ga procitam i da uporedim...ali opet, to nemogu biti neke velike razlike...sitni detalji, pre ce biti...
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Postod Aradela u Sre Okt 19, 2005 10:41 am

Kazes mi da moram da nestanem
Kao cvece koje negujem
Nista od mog imena da ne ostane
Nista slavno da ne postane
Ali jos su mlade baste koje zalivah
Pevace se opet pesme koje pevah.


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 Re: Let zmajeva

Postod Lirras u Čet Okt 20, 2005 10:44 am

Ok, ali osim toga? Ipak ti trebas prevesti i smisliti kako ce se to rimovati i na nasem...neje jednostavno...
Hmm...tek sad mi se cita the real deal!!! Mislim na delo u originalu, na engleskom...
If you never try you'll never know, just what you're worth...
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Postod Aradela u Čet Okt 20, 2005 10:53 am

Pa, prizanajem da dalje od toga nisam mnogo odmakla. Ionako je to novo izdanje trebalo da bude poklon i nije se dugo zadrzalo kod mene. :D

Inace knjige u originalu su fenomenalne. :D
Kazes mi da moram da nestanem
Kao cvece koje negujem
Nista od mog imena da ne ostane
Nista slavno da ne postane
Ali jos su mlade baste koje zalivah
Pevace se opet pesme koje pevah.


moj blog http://doktorkabg.blogspot.com/[/color]
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 Re: Let zmajeva

Postod Lirras u Čet Okt 20, 2005 11:00 am

Knjige u originalu su zakon! Mada mi se ne svidjaju ove lagane knjige(mislim na tezinu) sa onom hartijom od korica... Knjige trebaju da budu u tvrdom povezu!
If you never try you'll never know, just what you're worth...
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Postod Aradela u Čet Okt 20, 2005 11:06 am

Da, ali bi onda imale i visu cenu. Dokle god studiram i nemam svoju platu, zadovoljicu se i koricama ovakvim kakvim jesu. Kada budem pocela da zaradjujem, verovatno cu  opet kupovati knjige u takvim koricama, jer ne bih prezivela kada bi moji otkrili na sta trosim platu. :lol:
Kazes mi da moram da nestanem
Kao cvece koje negujem
Nista od mog imena da ne ostane
Nista slavno da ne postane
Ali jos su mlade baste koje zalivah
Pevace se opet pesme koje pevah.


moj blog http://doktorkabg.blogspot.com/[/color]
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 Re: Let zmajeva

Postod Lirras u Čet Okt 20, 2005 11:23 am

If you never try you'll never know, just what you're worth...
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Postod Aradela u Čet Okt 20, 2005 11:36 am

Kazes mi da moram da nestanem
Kao cvece koje negujem
Nista od mog imena da ne ostane
Nista slavno da ne postane
Ali jos su mlade baste koje zalivah
Pevace se opet pesme koje pevah.


moj blog http://doktorkabg.blogspot.com/[/color]
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