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Noob :)

Odlična epska fantastika - rame uz rame sa Tolkinom ;)

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Postod Earvena u Sub Mar 26, 2011 6:26 pm

Za Relju: Slika

::L::
"I hate the way you talk to me,and the way you cut your hair,
I hate the way you drive my car, I hate it when you stare,
I hate your big dumb combat boots, and the way you read my mind,
I hate you so much it makes me sick it even makes me rhyme
I hate the way you`re always right, I hate it when you lie,
I hate you when you make me laugh,even worse when you make me cry
I hate it that you`re not around,and the fact you didn`t call,
but mostly i hate the way I don`t hate you
...not even close
...not even a little bit
...not even at all.."
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Postod Maglor the Minstrel u Sub Mar 26, 2011 6:28 pm

E, ovo iznad sam ti ja ostavio, ali uvek zaboravim da se izlogujem. Zelim svoj racunar nazad. :(
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
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Postod vendy u Pon Mar 28, 2011 10:14 am

serijal se cita u jednom dahu. Prvi dio jeste bolji, ali mi je drago sto su Merlin i Korvin dva potpuno razlicita lika sa razlicitim zivotom.
"that the true way to a man's heart is six inches of metal between his ribs"
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Postod Pauleta u Ned Apr 10, 2011 9:58 am

Ok, zavrsih i Merlinov ciklus, za one nedovoljno strpljive koji se nisu baktali sa drugih 5 knjiga:

Dosta slabija prica. Tera po istom sablonu, umesto Korvina, sad pratimo nedacje sina mu Merlina. Kao i u prvom ciklusu prica je protkana intrigama, misterijama i peripetijama, no sve to je ostavljalo neki :mnjah: utisak, dok je u prvom ciklusu bilo :vilicadopoda: bar jednom po prichi. Uzasno iritira glavnik junak koji deluje kao neko nevino i neiskvareno detencete i koji time pruza visestruku sansu neprijateljima da ga osakate pre nego zaista odgovori na to. Nekako se tera po principu prvo razgovor a onda batinanje, sto samo po sebi i nije tako lose za glavnog junaka ali bih rekao da drasticno odstupa od sveta Ambera i Haosa, i glavnih likova tamo. Slicno je i za druge glavne protagoniste, odaju utisak nedovoljne dubine i razradjenosti licnosti, nesto sto je bilo tako fenomenalno uradjeno u prvom delu.

Primecuje se promena, negde blaga negde drasticna, u duhu price i ponasanju likova u odnosu na prvi ciklus. Tamo je recimo glavna prica bila sukob Ambera i Haosa i pad Uzora. U drugom ciklusu ta prica je donekle objasnjena i preneshena na jedan visi, da kazem, teoloskosvemirski nivo. I otuda neke promene, tipa, u prvom delu gotovo malo ko je znao za postojanje Predvorja Haosa, u drugom svi pricaju o tome, a mnogi i putuju tamo-vamo bez ikakvih problema.

Zadnja prica se zavrsava malo nedoreceno, tj naglo preseceno. Citao sam i one kratke price koje su izlazile posle Merlinovog ciklusa, a nastavljaju se na radnju 10. priche, i one su ok, razresavaju par stvari, ali i namestaju novi zaplet, kao da je Zelezni planirao jos jednu knjigu. Vidim da je neki lik izdao prequel, uz "blagoslov kuce Zeleznog", na prvu knjigu o vladavini Oberona, no to nemam nameru da citam. A vidim i da ima neki strip o prve dve knjige Korvinovog ciklusa - "9 princeva Ambera" i "Puske Avalona", to mi deluje zanimljivije i mozda bacim pogled.

I za kraj - Alnari treba spaliti.
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Postod Merlin u Ned Apr 10, 2011 5:16 pm

Koliko znam ja Zelazni je planirao josh da pishe,ali ga je smrt zaustavila u tome...
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Postod High Duke u Pet Apr 15, 2011 2:24 pm

Gregori Dzon Betankurt(a) je pisao prikvele koje sam nazalost procitao. Blasfemija. Covek je nepismeni idiot sa logickim rupama u prici velicine Evroazije. U ostale idiotizme i nedostatke necu ni da ulazim. Dovoljno je reci da je trebalo da napise jos knjiga, ali su mu serijal, hvala gospodu nad vojskama, ukinuli.
Let your blows fall because faith is my shield and valor is my sword

A knight is sworn to valour
His hearth know only virtue
His blade defends the helpless
His might upholds the weak
His words speak only truth
His wrath undoes the wicked
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Postod BEAST u Uto Jul 05, 2011 2:23 pm




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Postod tommyldo u Sre Jul 20, 2011 9:08 pm

Moze li mi neko napisati redoslijed knjiga?
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Postod Pauleta u Sre Jul 20, 2011 9:23 pm

Hronike Ambera I
Hronike Ambera II

:feler:





Po pricama:

1 9 princeva Ambera
2 Puske Avalona
3 Znamenje jednoroga
4 Ruka Oberonova
5 Predvorje Haosa
(ovih pet zaokruzuju Korvinov ciklus)

6 Aduti prokletstva
7 Krv Ambera
8 Znak Haosa
9 Vitez senki
10 Princ Haosa
(ovih drugih pet zaokruzuju Merlinov ciklus)


Sve ostalo sto postoji nije deo nijedne celine, vise su kratke i poluzavrsene price, tako da tu pazi sta citas - ako je autor Zelezni moze, ako je neko drugi (Betankort) bezi glavom bez obrzira.
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Postod tommyldo u Čet Jul 21, 2011 10:09 am

Hvala puno... Valja se baciti na citanje :D
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Postod tommyldo u Pon Dec 26, 2011 3:49 pm

Konacno sam (poslije mnogih prekida) zavrsio i Ambere.

Gledajuci obje hronike, moram priznati da su Prve Hronike Ambera, koje je pricao Korvin, bolje od drugih. Ne kazem da su druge lose, ali nisu ostavile neki veci utisak na mene.

Pocetak 1. knjige nije bio los iako isprva nisam bio zadovoljan kretanjem po Sjenkama, ali kasnije se sve to promjenilo u veoma interesantne opise raznih predjela :)

Omiljena knjiga mi je Ruka Oberonova (iz prvog ciklusa) i Princ Haosa (iz drugog ciklusa).

Drugi ciklus je imao obecavajucu pricu i na pocetku me najvise zanimalo sta se desilo sa Korvinom ( da li je ostao u Amberu, da li je na Zemlji ili nekoj njemu omiljnoj Sjenci). Poslije toga sam imao neki osjecaj da prica kruzi i razlog zbog koga sam nastavio da citam drugi ciklus je da saznam sta se desilo Korvinom (tj. gdje je nestao). Na kraju se i isplatilo :)

Sve u svemu, nije lose , bilo je trenutaka kada sam uzivao citajuci i manje onih smornih. Vjerujem da cu Korvinov ciklus procitati jos koji put :D
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Postod vendy u Pon Dec 26, 2011 4:26 pm

"that the true way to a man's heart is six inches of metal between his ribs"
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Postod Merlin u Uto Dec 27, 2011 7:39 am

Meni su bash prve dve knjige najdraze sa Korvinom,a sa Merlinom vishe se i ne secam rasporeda dogadjaja,kako god ono sa Sfingom... :mrgreen:
Shta ti se nije dopalo u prvom kretanju kroz Senke? Meni je ono najbolje / najludje... :lol:
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