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Postod Nemini u Pon Okt 24, 2005 12:42 am

@dkdnt
Vidim da si se upetljao u raspravu sa Blackfireom i Aducabrom, ali moram da ti diskretno dam do znanja da ono nisu poslednje reči Neda Starka. Čini mi se da je pred svoje pogubljenje ipak rekao nešto što počinje  “izdao sam veru svog kralja”, nastavlja kao, na pr. “...počeo da kujem zaveru i zbacim i ubijem njegovog sina...”. Da se ne mučiš ponovo, to je pred kraj got, u poglavlju gde je PoV Arja.

A sada, da se i ja umešam.
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Prvo, nisam mislila da je svaki pojedini Stark savršeno častan ( sivi likovi mogu poticati jedino iz sivih porodica, zar ne?). Govorila sam samo o simbolici Kuće Stark i Severa.
Drugo, što se tiče priče o časti, nijedan postupak se ne može tumačiti izdvojeno, izvan svog referentnog sistema, to jest kodeksa časti. Jedan krstaški  vitez, muslimanski šehit i recimo japanski samuraj, bi sledeći sopstveni obrazac časti uradili masu različitih stvari. Sem toga, pojam o časti se menja tokom vremena. Ono što je bilo časno pre 8 vekova ( recimo progon bogumila od strane Stefana Nemanje), danas bi se smatralo za kršenje ljudskih prava i zločin. Vartolomejsku noć, Hirošimu, komunističke čistke, bombardovanje osiromašenim uranijumom itd., izveli su ljudi ubedjeni u ispravnost svojih postupaka, i uvek je bilo mnogo njih koji su takva dela podržavali iz najdubljeg uverenja, a ne samo iz koristoljublja. Da ne pominjem da su iza njih uvek stajali  sistemi čija je ideologija sve to opravdavala . Daleko bi nas odvelo kada bismo o svemu tome raspravljali. U okviru svog kodeksa, Lord Stark nema nijednu mrlju, i zbog toga izgleda previše kruto, to je sve.
Treće, hvala ti za onih 1000 zlatnika. Još razmišljam kako da ih potrošim.   :cvetko:
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Postod dkdnt u Pon Okt 24, 2005 12:55 am

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Postod Telcontar Elessar u Pon Okt 24, 2005 1:00 am

Bullets fly, I pulled the trigger
Revenge is mine, sweet and bitter
Welcome to my hell on earth
this time you'll get hurt
I reload my gun, get ready to run
Fuck your life I'm just having fun
Your time is up, I'll never stop
I'll make you rot, I'll fill your grave
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Postod Margiloth u Pon Okt 24, 2005 10:32 am

"Will fate seduce you to her will?
Not if you struggle with all your Skill.
Summon your allies, locate the trained,
Consummate all from what you’ve refrained.
There’s a future not yet fashioned,
Founded by your fiery passions!"
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Postod Eladan u Pon Okt 24, 2005 11:17 am

...To stand against the Shadow so long as iron is hard and stone abides. To defend the weak while one drop of blood remains. To avenge what cannot be defended...
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Postod dkdnt u Pon Okt 24, 2005 11:50 am

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Postod Eladan u Pon Okt 24, 2005 12:08 pm

Sve, sve ali prema Gregoru ne osećam ni trunku saosećanja. Ma, bilo kakve pozitivne emocije u meni za njega nema  :bambusindian:  :bambusindian:  :bambusindian:  :ljutko:  :milisav:
...To stand against the Shadow so long as iron is hard and stone abides. To defend the weak while one drop of blood remains. To avenge what cannot be defended...
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Postod dkdnt u Pon Okt 24, 2005 12:16 pm

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Postod Aradela u Pon Okt 24, 2005 12:29 pm

Pa mozda je deo Dzejmijevog iskupljenja cinjenica da je poslao Brijenu da zastiti Sansu?
Kazes mi da moram da nestanem
Kao cvece koje negujem
Nista od mog imena da ne ostane
Nista slavno da ne postane
Ali jos su mlade baste koje zalivah
Pevace se opet pesme koje pevah.


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Postod dkdnt u Pon Okt 24, 2005 12:35 pm

to i ja mislim. ali to je samo jedno delo, prava promena se morala odigrati u njegovoj glavi, da bi uopshte pomislio na takvo neshto. njegov lik postaje sve simpatichniji i nekako pozitivniji. zaista ne mogu da dochekam ffc, a onda sledecu knjigu. joj boze nedelju dana od izdavanbja u Britaniji a nema ni pomena da se negde pojavila
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Postod Eladan u Pon Okt 24, 2005 12:40 pm

...To stand against the Shadow so long as iron is hard and stone abides. To defend the weak while one drop of blood remains. To avenge what cannot be defended...
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Postod Aradela u Pon Okt 24, 2005 12:42 pm

Kazes mi da moram da nestanem
Kao cvece koje negujem
Nista od mog imena da ne ostane
Nista slavno da ne postane
Ali jos su mlade baste koje zalivah
Pevace se opet pesme koje pevah.


moj blog http://doktorkabg.blogspot.com/[/color]
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Postod Eladan u Pon Okt 24, 2005 12:51 pm

...To stand against the Shadow so long as iron is hard and stone abides. To defend the weak while one drop of blood remains. To avenge what cannot be defended...
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Postod Aradela u Pon Okt 24, 2005 12:57 pm

Kazes mi da moram da nestanem
Kao cvece koje negujem
Nista od mog imena da ne ostane
Nista slavno da ne postane
Ali jos su mlade baste koje zalivah
Pevace se opet pesme koje pevah.


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Postod Eladan u Pon Okt 24, 2005 1:13 pm

...To stand against the Shadow so long as iron is hard and stone abides. To defend the weak while one drop of blood remains. To avenge what cannot be defended...
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